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« Reply #425 on: November 30, 2016, 12:11:23 PM »

Apparently, there are multiple "Draft Michelle Obama" PACs out there now:

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/307902-ready-for-michelle-pacs-urge-2020-run

Meanwhile, Barack says she's never going to run (reiterating her own previous comments on the matter):

http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2016/11/president-obama-michelle-will-never-run-for-office/

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« Reply #426 on: November 30, 2016, 12:36:26 PM »

Latest on Julian Castro:

http://www.expressnews.com/news/news_columnists/gilbert_garcia/article/Castro-in-holding-pattern-while-rumors-swirl-10643379.php

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« Reply #427 on: November 30, 2016, 12:50:06 PM »

Im with the go big guys Castro I think could be the perfect counter to Trump. He is young, came from a poor background, and as the article pointed out has WAY more experience prior to office than the man he would run against
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« Reply #428 on: November 30, 2016, 01:32:49 PM »

Mark Warner says he is not considering a 2020 presidential run:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/11/30/mark-warner-rules-out-2020-white-house-run-window-is-probably-shut/

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« Reply #429 on: November 30, 2016, 04:04:37 PM »

Gabriel Debenedetti ‏@gdebenedetti  3m3 minutes ago
Hard not to read into it a LITTLE when ambitious pols go to Iowa. Jason Kander→Des Moines for the Progress Iowa holiday party next month.
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« Reply #430 on: November 30, 2016, 04:39:18 PM »

If Joaquin Castro runs for Mayor, or becomes the VP nominee, couldn't Julian Castro run for Joaquin's House seat?
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« Reply #431 on: November 30, 2016, 05:03:01 PM »

Gabriel Debenedetti ‏@gdebenedetti  3m3 minutes ago
Hard not to read into it a LITTLE when ambitious pols go to Iowa. Jason Kander→Des Moines for the Progress Iowa holiday party next month.

Yeah but he's obviously NOT running for prez. So what do you think it is? DNC Chair?
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« Reply #432 on: November 30, 2016, 05:13:00 PM »

Gabriel Debenedetti ‏@gdebenedetti  3m3 minutes ago
Hard not to read into it a LITTLE when ambitious pols go to Iowa. Jason Kander→Des Moines for the Progress Iowa holiday party next month.

Yeah but he's obviously NOT running for prez. So what do you think it is? DNC Chair?

Not sure why a trip to Iowa would help one get elected DNC Chair.  Maybe he is hoping to run for prez, but in 2024 or 2028, after he wins some other office first.  Never too early to start laying the groundwork for 2028.  Tongue
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« Reply #433 on: December 01, 2016, 07:01:53 AM »


The FB page "Run Tulsi Run" is extremely active. Many of the commenters are anti-Hillary, pro-Bernie, and even pro-Trump. I have to admit that I like Gabbard but it is a really, really oddball mix on that page.

Are any of these actually associated with a PAC or with a broader movement?

That's what happens when you get an Islamophobic Blue Dog from a deep (Atlas) red state
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« Reply #434 on: December 01, 2016, 12:35:00 PM »

Rep. Xavier Becerra will be appointed California Attorney General by Gov. Jerry Brown. Takes him out of Washington and probably forecloses presidential ambitions for 2020...I've always thought he had them.
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« Reply #435 on: December 01, 2016, 12:43:13 PM »

Gabriel Debenedetti ‏@gdebenedetti  3m3 minutes ago
Hard not to read into it a LITTLE when ambitious pols go to Iowa. Jason Kander→Des Moines for the Progress Iowa holiday party next month.

Yeah but he's obviously NOT running for prez. So what do you think it is? DNC Chair?

Not sure why a trip to Iowa would help one get elected DNC Chair.  Maybe he is hoping to run for prez, but in 2024 or 2028, after he wins some other office first.  Never too early to start laying the groundwork for 2028.  Tongue


He can try, but it's not like the country will ever want an ultra-partisan dem like him.
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« Reply #436 on: December 01, 2016, 03:21:57 PM »

Franken says he will not run for president in 2020:

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/sen-al-franken-rejects-2020-presidential-run-exclusive-221600004.html

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« Reply #437 on: December 01, 2016, 03:48:47 PM »

He would make a good vp for someone like Castro or Booker
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« Reply #438 on: December 01, 2016, 04:07:28 PM »


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« Reply #439 on: December 01, 2016, 05:08:09 PM »


I will continue to say I can't believe he would rule it out four years out. If anyone would get my vote who is a progressive, it would be him.
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« Reply #440 on: December 01, 2016, 06:24:41 PM »

Tulsi Gabbard is too young to run in 2020. She could be a good candidate for the democrats in 2024 if they lose in 2020. I think she could unite the far-left Bernie supporters with moderates for a national coalition, unlike an Elizabeth Warren or a Tim Kaine. The democrats' best chance in 2020 is probably a moderate governor like Bullock (D-MT), especially against Trump. If the GOP nominates an establishment candidate like Paul Ryan, they'd be fine with a left-wing anti-establishment pick. Keep in mind that if the GOP isn't renominating Trump, it probably means republicans are in turmoil and going to lose no matter what.

I'm still hoping that Trump will pick Tulsi for secretary of state. On matter like opposing regime change and favoring working relations with Russia, they are quite similar (unlike war hawk Romney who wants to bring back the Cold War). She also acknowledges that we are at war with ISLAMIC terrorists and has criticized her party for failing to use the aforementioned word. Might not play well with some on the left, but four years as secretary of state could give her good experience to base her candidacy off of (assuming they aren't filled with disaster and scandal like Hillary's were).
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« Reply #441 on: December 01, 2016, 09:49:09 PM »

Hillary is going to run again. Bookmark me.
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« Reply #442 on: December 01, 2016, 09:55:01 PM »

Hillary is going to run again. Bookmark me.


If she ever does, her slogan should be "I told you so".
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« Reply #443 on: December 01, 2016, 10:04:25 PM »


I will continue to say I can't believe he would rule it out four years out. If anyone would get my vote who is a progressive, it would be him.

Requoting this so it isn't missed.
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« Reply #444 on: December 02, 2016, 08:05:46 AM »

If anyone thinks that that Franken statement is definitive, just remember:

"I can unequivocally say I will not be running for national office in four years"
-Barack Obama, 2004
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« Reply #445 on: December 02, 2016, 02:50:16 PM »

Lots of candidates use the loophole of saying they are "not running for president" meaning they will focus on their current job and helping their constituents... until such time that they run for president three years down the road.
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« Reply #446 on: December 02, 2016, 03:00:17 PM »

Lots of candidates use the loophole of saying they are "not running for president" meaning they will focus on their current job and helping their constituents... until such time that they run for president three years down the road.

In this particular statement though, Franken's office doesn't just say that he's "not running for president".  It says he's not going to run in 2020 (so they cover the future tense).  Compare that to the recent comments by Cuomo, Gillibrand, and Warren:

http://www.registerstar.com/news/article_53afce3e-ade6-11e6-9e2d-770246b848ab.html

Representatives from Gillibrand’s office said she is committed to her current role and plans to run again for the Senate in the next election.

"Sen. Gillibrand is focused on her job in the U.S. Senate and plans on running for re-election in 2018," Gillibrand spokesman Marc Brumer said.

Both Cuomo and Warren are asked about 2020:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/which-democrats-could-challenge-donald-trump-in-2020-presidentia/

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In those cases, they're just deflecting the question.  Not even making the pretense of making a denial of interest in running.  Whereas the Franken statement is more of a real denial.

That's not to say that the Franken statement is the last word on Franken 2020.  It's way too early to take that as the last word.  (E.g., Obama gave a real denial on 2008 as well, and then flip-flopped on it.)  But in general, the politicians who are already playing the game of "non-denials" are the ones who tend to be most likely to run.
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« Reply #447 on: December 02, 2016, 03:27:31 PM »

Does anyone know if it's largely just supporters of the winning party who tend to go to all the "inaugural balls" in DC on presidential inauguration day?

I ask because if these things tend to be bipartisan, then I'm wondering if any of the 2020 Dems will go to this (Iowa's inauguration party in DC):

http://www.iowasociety.com/inauguration-2017/
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/first-in-the-nation-inauguration-celebration-tickets-29791374804?aff=erelexpmlt

In 2013, both Biden and Klobuchar went to it, for example.  Neither of them ended up running in 2016, of course, but they were both thinking about it at the time.  But if it's going to be attended only by Republicans celebrating the Trump victory this time, then I guess it's a moot point.  Though in that case, I guess if any Republican VIPs show up, it's a sign that they're thinking about primarying Trump in four years.  Tongue
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« Reply #448 on: December 02, 2016, 11:47:43 PM »

Doesn't look like any of the 2020 Dems will be on the Sunday morning talk shows this week:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEWS_SHOWS?SITE=AP
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« Reply #449 on: December 03, 2016, 10:13:22 AM »

Another Gillibrand non-denial (this one from Gillibrand herself rather than a spokesman):

http://wnyt.com/news/gillibrand-mattis-regional-food-bank-president-2020/4333883/

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