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« Reply #1575 on: July 15, 2017, 01:19:21 pm »
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Poll of 333 Democrat and independent voters in Midwest finds no more than 21% think a Dem could beat Trump in 2020.

this guy's conclusion from the poll is wrong on so many levels...first of all the question was "which one of these democrats has the best chance of beating trump", not "how many of these democrats can beat trump". and second, "none of the above" means none of the listed people, not no democrat
the correct conclusion is that 50% of the respondents think at least one of those listed democrats can win
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« Reply #1576 on: July 15, 2017, 04:54:34 pm »
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Harris meeting with bundlers in the Hamptons.
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« Reply #1577 on: July 15, 2017, 05:05:22 pm »
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The California senator is being fęted in Bridgehampton on Saturday at the home of MWWPR guru Michael Kempner, a staunch Clinton supporter who was one of her national-finance co-chairs and a led fund-raiser for her 2008 bid for the presidency. He was also listed as one of the top “bundlers” for Barack Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign, having raised $3 million.

Guests there to greet Harris are expected to include Margo Alexander, a member of Clinton’s inner circle; Dennis Mehiel, a Democratic donor who is the chairman of the Battery Park City Authority, even though he lives between a sprawling Westchester estate and an Upper East Side pad; designer Steven Gambrel and Democratic National Committee member Robert Zimmerman.
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« Reply #1578 on: July 15, 2017, 06:38:57 pm »
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I've gone into further detail with this in my TL, but I believe that Harris is uniquely situated to bypass the Sanders/Clinton dynamic that may emerge for others like Warren and Clinton-type candidates.
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« Reply #1579 on: July 15, 2017, 07:54:30 pm »
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Harris fundraising for Brown in October.
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« Reply #1580 on: July 15, 2017, 08:21:02 pm »
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Here is video of Sasse driving an Uber in Iowa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDVvwO-RPmg

Only further proof that the only reason people go to Iowa is when they've lost a bet.
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« Reply #1581 on: July 15, 2017, 10:44:13 pm »
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Gillibrand was the keynote speaker at a conference for the National Association of Commissions for Women this weekend:

http://wvik.org/post/conference-reflects-women-s-rights#stream/0
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« Reply #1582 on: July 16, 2017, 08:48:11 am »
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Here's a brief recap of the Sanders trip to Iowa yesterday:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/07/16/bernie-sanders-returns-iowa-slam-disastrous-gop-health-bill/482390001/
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« Reply #1583 on: July 16, 2017, 10:44:36 am »
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« Reply #1584 on: July 16, 2017, 06:49:16 pm »
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Word in my circles is that Rand Paul is considering a challenge to Trump from the right on healthcare and that the chances of him doing so will significantly increase if the Senate bill passes without his vote.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but by "challenge to Trump...on healthcare," do you mean being more vocal against Trump to fight the bill or running a full-fledged campaign against him in 2020?

Full-fledged campaign.
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« Reply #1585 on: July 17, 2017, 02:39:17 am »
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FWIW it's worth mentioning that he had a backstage conversation with a few of his IA organizers who were in-state at the time. I haven't asked what was discussed but someone put the caption 'talking about the future' on their pictures of it.  

Shouldn't necessarily be over-interpreted, but this *is* the tea-leaves thread.
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« Reply #1586 on: July 17, 2017, 08:13:14 am »
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Warren asked about 2020 at a town hall this weekend:

http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20170716/warren-headlines-town-hall-event-to-rally-democratic-base

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“Besides yourself and (U.S. Sen. Bernie) Sanders, who do you think could be a good candidate for the Democratic ticket?” asked Tom Baldwin, who was visiting from New Jersey, about the 2020 presidential election. Baldwin, wearing a black Korean War veterans hat, identified himself as a former Tuskegee Airman, for which he received a standing ovation.

Warren declined to address the speculation about her presidential ambitions, and instead encouraged Baldwin and others to focus on the 2018 congressional elections.
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« Reply #1587 on: July 17, 2017, 08:42:01 am »
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Warren asked about 2020 at a town hall this weekend:

http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20170716/warren-headlines-town-hall-event-to-rally-democratic-base

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“Besides yourself and (U.S. Sen. Bernie) Sanders, who do you think could be a good candidate for the Democratic ticket?” asked Tom Baldwin, who was visiting from New Jersey, about the 2020 presidential election. Baldwin, wearing a black Korean War veterans hat, identified himself as a former Tuskegee Airman, for which he received a standing ovation.

Warren declined to address the speculation about her presidential ambitions, and instead encouraged Baldwin and others to focus on the 2018 congressional elections.


Not trying to derail the thread but after reading the article, they really need to stop with this "She Persisted!" nonsense. It is terrible and it's like a losing team saying they should have won after a come from behind loss but that field goal!! Still a loss. Clinton needs to get out of the spotlight for the Dems to move on.
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« Reply #1588 on: July 17, 2017, 08:44:49 am »
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Warren asked about 2020 at a town hall this weekend:

http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20170716/warren-headlines-town-hall-event-to-rally-democratic-base

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“Besides yourself and (U.S. Sen. Bernie) Sanders, who do you think could be a good candidate for the Democratic ticket?” asked Tom Baldwin, who was visiting from New Jersey, about the 2020 presidential election. Baldwin, wearing a black Korean War veterans hat, identified himself as a former Tuskegee Airman, for which he received a standing ovation.

Warren declined to address the speculation about her presidential ambitions, and instead encouraged Baldwin and others to focus on the 2018 congressional elections.


Not trying to derail the thread but after reading the article, they really need to stop with this "She Persisted!" nonsense. It is terrible and it's like a losing team saying they should have won after a come from behind loss but that field goal!! Still a loss. Clinton needs to get out of the spotlight for the Dems to move on.

"She persisted" is about Warren, not Clinton:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevertheless,_she_persisted
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« Reply #1589 on: July 17, 2017, 08:47:49 am »
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Warren asked about 2020 at a town hall this weekend:

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“Besides yourself and (U.S. Sen. Bernie) Sanders, who do you think could be a good candidate for the Democratic ticket?” asked Tom Baldwin, who was visiting from New Jersey, about the 2020 presidential election. Baldwin, wearing a black Korean War veterans hat, identified himself as a former Tuskegee Airman, for which he received a standing ovation.

Warren declined to address the speculation about her presidential ambitions, and instead encouraged Baldwin and others to focus on the 2018 congressional elections.


Not trying to derail the thread but after reading the article, they really need to stop with this "She Persisted!" nonsense. It is terrible and it's like a losing team saying they should have won after a come from behind loss but that field goal!! Still a loss. Clinton needs to get out of the spotlight for the Dems to move on.

"She persisted" is about Warren, not Clinton:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevertheless,_she_persisted


Oh ok. Well I still think it's a terrible slogan and moderates and conservatives that would lean-Dem to vote against Trump would tear Warren apart over it because it sounds too much like a protest chant, agitation. Dems do not need to aline themselves with that because it alienates the very centrist, swing, etc. vote that they need to get.
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« Reply #1590 on: July 17, 2017, 09:01:02 am »
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Kirsten Gillibrand tweeted a picture of her new dog, which she has named "Maple".

https://twitter.com/sengillibrand/status/886928508773171202

Which state is known for providing large quantities of maple syrup? Vermont. This is clearly just some sad attempt to win over Sanders voters. Does she think we're stupid? Does she think we won't notice? The truth is out there.
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« Reply #1591 on: July 17, 2017, 09:02:43 am »
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Kirsten Gillibrand tweeted a picture of her new dog, which she has named "Maple".

https://twitter.com/sengillibrand/status/886928508773171202

Which state is known for providing large quantities of maple syrup? Vermont. This is clearly just some sad attempt to win over Sanders voters. Does she think we're stupid? Does she think we won't notice? The truth is out there.
I would much prefer the name 'Mabel' but I'm just a goofy Gravity Falls nerd. Tongue
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« Reply #1592 on: July 17, 2017, 09:26:48 am »
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Kirsten Gillibrand tweeted a picture of her new dog, which she has named "Maple".

https://twitter.com/sengillibrand/status/886928508773171202

Which state is known for providing large quantities of maple syrup? Vermont. This is clearly just some sad attempt to win over Sanders voters. Does she think we're stupid? Does she think we won't notice? The truth is out there.

That is one cute ass dog.
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« Reply #1593 on: July 17, 2017, 01:48:36 pm »
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Former Vice President Joe Biden announced on Monday that he will embark on a speaking tour across the country later this year as he promotes his new book—sparking renewed cries for him to challenge President Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election.

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/biden-book-2020-election/
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Former Vice President Joe Biden announced on Monday that he will embark on a speaking tour across the country later this year as he promotes his new book—sparking renewed cries for him to challenge President Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election.

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/biden-book-2020-election/

I think this announcement is also the first time Biden has revealed the title of the book, which is “Promise Me, Dad: A Year of Hope, Hardship and Purpose".

Here's the itinerary for the book tour:

https://us.macmillan.com/static/fib/joe-biden/

No stops in Iowa or New Hampshire.
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« Reply #1595 on: July 17, 2017, 04:53:36 pm »
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Also mentioned: This weekend is the National Governors Association summer meeting in Rhode Island, so a number of potential 2020 candidates will be in attendance (e.g., Bullock, Hickenlooper, McAuliffe):

https://www.nga.org/cms/SummerMeeting2017

Looks like Cuomo and Kasich are skipping though.


Looks like McAuliffe used the occasion to give Pence a backhanded "compliment":

http://www.businessinsider.com/mcauliffe-pence-medicaid-healthcare-governors-2017-7
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« Reply #1596 on: July 17, 2017, 08:15:02 pm »
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Bullock forms "Big Sky Values PAC".

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/us/politics/democrat-governors-bullock-mcauliffe.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share

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Mr. Bullock is creating a federal political action committee, Big Sky Values PAC, that will offer a political infrastructure to let him meet Democratic donors, contribute to the party’s candidates and fund his out-of-state electoral travels.

As is typical for most potential candidates this far out from the next White House campaign, he said it was premature to discuss whether he would actually run.
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« Reply #1597 on: July 17, 2017, 08:24:21 pm »
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Bullock forms "Big Sky Values PAC".

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Mr. Bullock is creating a federal political action committee, Big Sky Values PAC, that will offer a political infrastructure to let him meet Democratic donors, contribute to the party’s candidates and fund his out-of-state electoral travels.

As is typical for most potential candidates this far out from the next White House campaign, he said it was premature to discuss whether he would actually run.

I was sure he would run. I'm glad this is basically confirmed.
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« Reply #1598 on: July 17, 2017, 08:53:42 pm »
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Mr. Bullock is creating a federal political action committee, Big Sky Values PAC, that will offer a political infrastructure to let him meet Democratic donors, contribute to the party’s candidates and fund his out-of-state electoral travels.

As is typical for most potential candidates this far out from the next White House campaign, he said it was premature to discuss whether he would actually run.

I was sure he would run. I'm glad this is basically confirmed.

He still could run against Daines instead...
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« Reply #1599 on: July 18, 2017, 07:33:30 am »
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Harris got good reviews from the Dem. donors she met with on Saturday, with one fundraiser saying he's convinced that she's going to run for prez:

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/342431-dem-donors-buzzing-about-kamala-harris

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The Bridgehampton event, where Harris mingled with top donors and supporters of Hillary Clinton, was the ultimate signal that Harris is “thinking much bigger” than the Senate, one top bundler said.

“She’s running for president. Take it to the bank,” another fundraiser said. “She’s absolutely going to run.”
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