TRUMP: "There has to be some form of punishment" for women who have abortions

[ProudModerate2]

trump is such an idiot.
Either dem will beat him in the general.

[Fargobison]

So Trump goes on Fox and lies about his MSNBC town hall...can't make it up...

Donald on Fox...



https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/715669925109506049

MSNBC response...



https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/715706739132207105

[Democratic Cynicalism]

As a few have pointed out - aside from the political toxicity of it, there's actually logical consistency in the position Trump (briefly) took. If abortion is immoral, and murder, and should be illegal, then punishment is not only appropriate, it's necessary.

Really, the more cowardly position is to hand-wave it away with "she's vulnerable and needs help." Plenty of murderers are vulnerable. Plenty need help. Perhaps it's odd to hear, but most murderers aren't Jeffrey Dahmer. There is often context and circumstance. The law punishes them anyway - as it should.

The suggestion that pregnant women seeking abortions are vulnerable and needing help and yet according to your belief should still be saddled with the pregnancy in most cases, also grates. Ways to make women less vulnerable and distressed tend not to include forcing them to continue with an unwanted pregnancy, and potentially an unwanted child.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Yes,

Donald does not shy away from political hot potatoes and choose the easy ground.

This seems to be a severely divisive topic in the American political spectrum.

[Fargobison]

Donald still doesn't know what he is talking about....



https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/716041107327598592

[Antonio the Sixth]

muh states rights

[Fargobison]

He needs to end the stupid charade and just say what he is...pro choice.

[catographer]

I can't wait for the GOP convention. Bring on the popcorn!

[Why]

Trump is so stupid he cannot remember the lies he said about abortion for more than a couple of hours so keeps forgetting what he said and contradicting himself.

He is almost certainly pro mass murder of babies but he cannot say that.

[Mr. Morden]

Donald still doesn't know what he is talking about....



https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/716041107327598592

Over/under on the number of hours we have to wait until "the laws are set" quote shows up in a Ted Cruz campaign ad?

[Illiniwek]

Ohhhhhh myyyyyyyyyy gooooooooodness hahahahahahhaahaha.

This guy is officially a clown. There is no other explanation. I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he is not mentally challenged, which must mean this guy is just trying to sabotage his own campaign and go out as a massive train wreck.

[Antonio the Sixth]

He needs to end the stupid charade and just say what he is...pro choice.

He is almost certainly pro mass murder of babies but he cannot say that.

You're both way off. Drumpf doesn't give a sh*t either way.

[Oak Hills]

This guy is officially a clown. There is no other explanation. I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he is not mentally challenged, which must mean this guy is just trying to sabotage his own campaign and go out as a massive train wreck.

No, I think he's just absolutely clueless about the issues that he hasn't had to deal with directly in his business dealings (e.g. zoning and such).

[Fuzzy Bear]

Note that when Trump was asked whether the men involved should also be held responsible for abortions, Trump said, "no."
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-lewandowski-they-re-destroying-very-good-person-n548036

LOL.  As if his misogyny and overblown sense of male entitlement were not already clear enough.  It will be a pleasure watching Hillary throw this pompous pr**k around the ring.

Assuming that abortion were not legal:  Why should a man be held responsible for an abortion, unless it's the doctor performing it?

[TJ in Oregon]

Ohhhhhh myyyyyyyyyy gooooooooodness hahahahahahhaahaha.

This guy is officially a clown. There is no other explanation. I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he is not mentally challenged, which must mean this guy is just trying to sabotage his own campaign and go out as a massive train wreck.

My theory is that Donald Trump doesn't actually care about abortion at all. Since he's running as a Republican, he needs to be pro-life. But Trump hasn't devoted much time or thought to developing a nuanced opinion on the topic. So he keeps on getting asked questions and keeps saying unusual things that the canned-line style campaigns we normally see would never say. He also keeps contradicting himself because he's learning on the spot. This is how the man learns, by doing. By the end of next week, his campaign will probably settle on some printed abortion policies now that he's taken flak for it.

[Mr. Morden]

Trump questioned on whether abortion is murder:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-dont-change-abortion-laws/

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[Torie]

Trump questioned on whether abortion is murder:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-dont-change-abortion-laws/

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Donald has trouble thinking things through. Who knew? In reality, on abortion, he doesn't give a damn, one way or the other what the law is (that might well obtain to a host of other issues too - the main thing is Trump's own celebrity). If he wants to abort a potential child that he sired, the law won't matter. Just visit France or something.

[Why]

Note that when Trump was asked whether the men involved should also be held responsible for abortions, Trump said, "no."
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-lewandowski-they-re-destroying-very-good-person-n548036

LOL.  As if his misogyny and overblown sense of male entitlement were not already clear enough.  It will be a pleasure watching Hillary throw this pompous pr**k around the ring.

Assuming that abortion were not legal:  Why should a man be held responsible for an abortion, unless it's the doctor performing it?

A male is accountable if,

1. A male is party to the decision that an abortion should occur.
2. A non doctor male performs an abortion on a woman who is either willing or unwilling.
3. A male pays for an abortion.

[Why]

Trump questioned on whether abortion is murder:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-dont-change-abortion-laws/

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He is digging a hole and it is just getting deeper and deeper and deeper and if he is not careful the walls will collapse and he and his campaign will be buried.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Trump questioned on whether abortion is murder:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-dont-change-abortion-laws/

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He is digging a hole and it is just getting deeper and deeper and deeper and if he is not careful the walls will collapse and he and his campaign will be buried.

I'm starting to wonder if, like Carson last year, it is deliberate. As President, Trump would have to actually work with people instead of wallowing in being the biggest ego in the room, he couldn't do much to hype his brand or his net worth, he'd have a frightening amount of responsibility and accountability, and he'd likely go down in history as a hated failure.

If he flames out spectacularly now, he can blame "the establishment" and even keep on hyping "Make America Great Again" as a cash-cow, for free PR, try to redeem his name and his brand, and wield a sizable amount of influence on the national stage. He can even mount a pro-forma (aka. he doesn't pay much) 3rd party run for the lolz without any real danger of winning.

[Ogre Mage]

Note that when Trump was asked whether the men involved should also be held responsible for abortions, Trump said, "no."
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-lewandowski-they-re-destroying-very-good-person-n548036

LOL.  As if his misogyny and overblown sense of male entitlement were not already clear enough.  It will be a pleasure watching Hillary throw this pompous pr**k around the ring.

Assuming that abortion were not legal:  Why should a man be held responsible for an abortion, unless it's the doctor performing it?

It takes two to cause an unwanted pregnancy.  Yet Trump, a (sexist) man, conveniently puts criminal responsibility only on the female half.  I know real-life couples, one married, who struggled with the decision to get an abortion and I respect the difficult decision they made.  While the woman was the primary decision maker in such cases, the men were involved, gave their thoughts, helped pay for it, drove her to the clinic.  If it was illegal, you think the man has no responsibility?

Then of course there are the cases where the woman gets pregnant and the man abandons her -- another situation I have seen and been told about.  And then there is the hypocritical Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-TN), a so-called "pro-life" politician who nevertheless pressured the woman he was having an extramarital affair with to get an abortion.  You think the man has no responsibility in such cases?

[Wisconsin+17]

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Good question. If a man wants to keep and raise his child he has no say.

[Mr. Morden]

Trump says many religious people thought his answer to Chris Matthews was a good answer:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/trump-many-religious-people-thought-answer-on-punishing-wome#.tj0wy6d5A

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[Doimper]

Trump says many religious people thought his answer to Chris Matthews was a good answer:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/trump-many-religious-people-thought-answer-on-punishing-wome#.tj0wy6d5A

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I'm sure they did, right until he flipped on the issue another two times immediately after that.

[Ogre Mage]

Yeah, and we've all seen Donald's 70% disapproval rating with women. 

http://www.gallup.com/poll/190403/seven-women-unfavorable-opinion-trump.aspx

Good luck in the general election against Hillary.