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« on: March 31, 2016, 04:06:26 PM »

Between Palin in '08 and Julian Castro in '16, who would you say had/has the better resume for a VP candidate?

Palin (on election day 2008): 23 months as Governor of Alaska, 2 years as director of a non-profit (that provided political training to Republican women in Alaska), 11 months as Chairwoman of Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, 6 years as Mayor of Wasilla (pop. ~8500), 4 years as City Councilwoman of Wasilla, experience as a sportscaster/sports reporter, bachelor's degree in communications from the University of Idaho in Moscow

Castro (on election day 2016): 25 months as HUD Secretary, 5 years as Mayor of San Antonio (pop. 1.4 million), 4 years on San Antonio City Council, experience as an attorney at a major law firm (Akin Gump Strauss) and with own practice, law degree from Harvard, bachelor's degree in political science and communications from Stanford
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2016, 04:09:23 PM »

On paper, Palin. 

In actually, CLEARLY Castro, though mostly by default.  Sarah Palin is a moron who doesn't know a god damn thing about government or really anything other than being folksy and charismatic and marrying a thug.
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2016, 04:10:10 PM »

A hobo from the street is more qualified than Palin.
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2016, 04:11:02 PM »
« Edited: March 31, 2016, 04:13:36 PM by Ebsy »

On paper, definitely Palin.

For the record, I don't think Castro will be VP.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2016, 04:13:09 PM »

On paper, Palin. 

In actually, CLEARLY Castro, though mostly by default.  Sarah Palin is a moron who doesn't know a god damn thing about government or really anything other than being folksy and charismatic and marrying a thug.


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On paper, definitely Palin.

For the record, I don't thin Castro will be VP.

This precisely.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2016, 04:13:52 PM »

Castro is more qualified in terms of executive experience, education, and temperment.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2016, 04:21:45 PM »

Both are morons who shouldn't be allowed within a heartbeat of the presidency
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2016, 04:39:25 PM »

On paper, Palin. 

In actually, CLEARLY Castro, though mostly by default.  Sarah Palin is a moron who doesn't know a god damn thing about government or really anything other than being folksy and charismatic and marrying a thug.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2016, 04:51:47 PM »

I appreciate the attention but I can assure you that I have no plans to seek the Vice Presidency.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2016, 04:55:21 PM »

Castro certainly more qualified, but that isn't really all that impressive. He isn't on my top 20 list for vp picks.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2016, 04:59:30 PM »

Castro, but with Palin the bar is really, really set low.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2016, 05:00:49 PM »

No idea why people are saying Palin wins on paper.

In terms of executive experience, Governor of an irrelevant state < Mayor of one of the largest cities in the country. At least in my book. Obviously there are different priorities when leading a state vs a city, and I'm no Castro hack by any means, but Palin's resume is shallow. And it showed.
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2016, 05:01:42 PM »

By most recent job title Palin.   If you factor in things like mental stability, iq, education level, and general seriousness of approach... well then Castro.   But I still feel he could be an historically inexperienced vp nom if he got it.

I would prefer Hillary picked one of the senators from Minn.
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2016, 05:05:41 PM »

Castro. Mayoring a large city is pretty similar experience to being Governor (yes, generalization, mayors in different cities have different powers, etc., etc., I know the comparison is imperfect) and VPs have been picked on the basis of Cabinet experience before (though this is more commonly a Republican thing; Cheney/Kemp/Bush Sr. all were picked in large part thanks to their experiences in the Cabinet). 5 years large-city Mayor + 2 years Cabinet > 2 years Governor.

McCain really messed up when he didn't pick Pawlenty. That guy ticked every box McCain needed him to tick.
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2016, 05:07:29 PM »

Let's not forget that Dan Quayle had been in Congress for 12 years.
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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2016, 05:07:31 PM »

No idea why people are saying Palin wins on paper.

In terms of executive experience, Governor of an irrelevant state < Mayor of one of the largest cities in the country. At least in my book. Obviously there are different priorities when leading a state vs a city, and I'm no Castro hack by any means, but Palin's resume is shallow. And it showed.

Castro is definitively killing her on paper. Former mayor of one of the largest cities in the country and cabinet secretary v. a half-term governor of one of least less populated states and former mayor of a "city" with the population of mere 8,621.

Palin was easily a VP candidate with the least impressive resume since Spiro Agnew, and even Agnew's resume was better. Hell, in this regard she's barely better than the likes of Arthur Sewell, John Kern or Frank Knox.
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2016, 05:09:37 PM »

FYI Mayor of San Antonio is a part-time job, not a full-time one.  The city manager does most of the actual work there.
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2016, 05:14:14 PM »

Castro's Department of Housing and Urban Development employs more people that Wasilla had when Palin was mayor. San Antonio has more people living in it than live in Alaska. So, Castro.

That said, I think he is extremely overrated for VP by any measure.
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2016, 05:15:36 PM »

What I think Americans at the end of the day are going to be able to go back and look at the track record for opportunity to change it.

At the same time, who's more apt to be talking about solutions those terrorists who would seek to destroy America and our allies.
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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2016, 05:25:05 PM »

Castro is better qualified given the size of the Texas city vs the whole state of Alaska and he has some cabinet experience on top of it.

Regardless, it would be silly for Clinton to make such a McCain-sque gambit. Even though I don't think experience is that important, one of Clinton's biggest strengths is her experience relative to TRUMP or Cruz. Aside from being a woman, a good campaign theme to cement upon is calling the Republican nominee dangerous and unqualified in contrast with her background. The last thing she needs is someone a heartbeat away to cancel that out and remind people of Palin. The whole 'balancing thing' is pretty overrated IMO.
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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2016, 05:25:37 PM »

Let's not forget that Dan Quayle had been in Congress for 12 years.

The word used in the thread title is "qualified". However bad of a speaker/possibly simply stupid he was, you can't deny that Quayle had the necessary qualifications.
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2016, 05:36:35 PM »

FYI Mayor of San Antonio is a part-time job, not a full-time one.  The city manager does most of the actual work there.

Well I suppose that complicates things a little. But I don't think my answer changes honestly.

Regardless, it would be silly for Clinton to make such a McCain-sque gambit [...] The last thing she needs is someone a heartbeat away to cancel that out and remind people of Palin. The whole 'balancing thing' is pretty overrated IMO.

Plus, it's not like she's going to need help wooing Latinos if Trump is the nominee.
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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2016, 05:38:01 PM »

Tom Perez or John Hickenlooper would be way better options for VP
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2016, 05:39:16 PM »

Castro, but only because we're comparing him to PALIN. He shouldn't be Clinton's VP pick.
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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2016, 05:45:15 PM »

Castro, but only because we're comparing him to PALIN. He shouldn't be Clinton's VP pick.
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