Mississippi House Passes Religious Freedom Bill, Edit ACLU files suit over bill
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« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2016, 03:00:05 PM »


At 10:12 I was sitting through a godawful classroom fight about...this exact issue, actually (some really strange rhetoric, some but not all of it profoundly homophobic, being thrown back and forth; unironic use of the term 'sex-negative' as a theological category; somebody somehow brought BDS into it; a guest lecturer made a wildly inappropriate rape analogy), so I wasn't really in the mood to be mature in this thread. (I was using Atlas Forum in class because I've developed a bad habit of hating about half of my classes. I think after this degree I'm going back to secular academia...)

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« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2016, 07:50:58 PM »

Isn't this whole punishing states unconstitutional? That would be like a waiter refusing to serve a person who has differing political beliefs. Wouldn't the waiter lose their job?
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« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2016, 08:47:37 PM »

Isn't this whole punishing states unconstitutional? That would be like a waiter refusing to serve a person who has differing political beliefs. Wouldn't the waiter lose their job?

But I'm guessing you'd be perfectly fine with it if the waiter refused to serve a gay person.
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« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2016, 08:58:47 PM »

Isn't this whole punishing states unconstitutional? That would be like a waiter refusing to serve a person who has differing political beliefs. Wouldn't the waiter lose their job?

But I'm guessing you'd be perfectly fine with it if the waiter refused to serve a gay person.

I doubt that has any religious freedom implications because no religion proscribes gays from eating food unless that food is funsauce.

I suppose you might claim religious freedom if you didn't want to sell sex toys to a gay couple, but that's probably not your real concern if you're in the sex toy industry.
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« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2016, 09:05:34 PM »

I don't agree with a lot of state laws, but the rights should be left to the states to govern themselves. States Rights.
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« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2016, 03:26:05 AM »

Wow. Just read the text of this thing. This is probably the worst of these I've ever seen. Supporters of this bill can't even use the old, "and a gay baker shouldn't have to make a wedding cake for a fundamentalist Christian, either" argument because this bill certainly does not provide for that. It literally only creates a totally one-sided right to discriminate against gay weddings.

The only silver lining is that Mississippi's refusal to even go through the motions of writing a facially neutral law means that there's a good chance SCOTUS could strike this down. Forget Obergfell, Romer v. Evans was supposed to put these kinds of laws to rest. 
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« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2016, 03:05:50 PM »

Isn't this whole punishing states unconstitutional? That would be like a waiter refusing to serve a person who has differing political beliefs. Wouldn't the waiter lose their job?

But I'm guessing you'd be perfectly fine with it if the waiter refused to serve a gay person.
I wouldn't because that's just pure discrimination, I believe that you should have the right to not participate in a gay marriage that's it, other than that it is discrimination.
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« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2016, 01:51:04 PM »

The AClU will challenge the bill in District Court
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Source http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/us/mississippi-religious-freedom-bill-lawsuit/index.html
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« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2016, 12:00:05 AM »

I don't agree with a lot of state laws, but the rights should be left to the states to govern themselves. States Rights.

1964 called.....
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« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2016, 05:38:37 PM »

Isn't this whole punishing states unconstitutional? That would be like a waiter refusing to serve a person who has differing political beliefs. Wouldn't the waiter lose their job?

There's also the Supremacy Clause.
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