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« on: April 02, 2016, 02:17:56 PM »

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/04/01/dark-turn-for-sanders-campaign/iQXKhLKcLadSzNhbxo2WOI/story.html


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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2016, 02:21:30 PM »

Sanders has surrounded himself with delusional people, and has allowed the adoration from young people/celebrities to go to his head. He has always been an arrogant, egotistical narcissist so the idea of coming so close but being unable to go all the way is just too hard for him to accept.
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2016, 02:27:19 PM »

good. handling a vicious mudslinger like clinton with kid gloves was a losing strategy from the start
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2016, 02:36:10 PM »

Yeah, I think Sanders' strategy of refusing to go negative is dumb flower-power BS.

Keeping things related to the issues and policies and refusing to go negative on stupid, superficial things that have nothing to do with governance (like say Hillary Clinton had an affair or ate pizza with a fork or was a mormon or something) is what makes sense to me.
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2016, 02:37:12 PM »

*Colbert emoji* It is necessary to point out differences in policy, important to point out differences in character, and vital to the populace to have all the facts strewn out. The Democratic primaries have been exceptionally clean and void of dirty politics save Clinton supporters at polling places suppressing votes, including Bill Clinton's presence in my hometown of Boston and their shenanigans misleading voters in the American Samoa.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2016, 02:39:40 PM »

But they're not attacks, they're just "pointing out our differences!"  I'm not calling her a corrupt, flip-flopping hack, I'm just "drawing a distinction!"  I'm not going negative, I'm just "talking about the issues and having a discussion about the areas where we disagree!"  When my crowds boo her, I encourage them because "I believe in the first amendment!"

This guy is such a weasel, and he's your freedom fighter Atlas?
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2016, 02:44:05 PM »

I don't think the tone of the campaign has changed. The impression that I'm getting is of a Clinton campaign that wants to call for Sanders withdrawal but isn't confident that doing so wouldn't backfire on them. So the strategy seems to be expressing indignation that he's still, you know, actually running the campaign that he wants to run, rather than becoming a de facto Clinton surrogate.
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2016, 02:57:24 PM »

I don't think the tone of the campaign has changed. The impression that I'm getting is of a Clinton campaign that wants to call for Sanders withdrawal but isn't confident that doing so wouldn't backfire on them. So the strategy seems to be expressing indignation that he's still, you know, actually running the campaign that he wants to run, rather than becoming a de facto Clinton surrogate.

Insulting and insinuating nasty things about Clinton on a daily basis and stirring up negativity and hate in his crowds and the media to the point where the crowds are booing Clinton and the press only covers Bernie for his attacks against her, while having his online surrogates promote lies and conspiracy theories about her, is this the campaign he wanted to run?

If so, shame on him.
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2016, 03:03:16 PM »

Sanders has drank his own kool-aid about being the leader of a movement.
Add to that a team of advisers like Tad Devine that doesn't want the gravy train of his campaign to stop and there you have it.
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2016, 03:05:15 PM »

I don't think the tone of the campaign has changed. The impression that I'm getting is of a Clinton campaign that wants to call for Sanders withdrawal but isn't confident that doing so wouldn't backfire on them. So the strategy seems to be expressing indignation that he's still, you know, actually running the campaign that he wants to run, rather than becoming a de facto Clinton surrogate.
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2016, 03:09:26 PM »

How dare he fight back when subjected to repeated vicious lying attacks from Hillary and Brock? Hoiw dare he!
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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2016, 03:09:45 PM »

I don't think the tone of the campaign has changed.

Of course you don't, it's not like the article provides any evidence of such a change.
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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2016, 03:11:21 PM »

not surprised, I saw this coming, his ego and Tad have gotten him to this point.
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2016, 03:18:45 PM »

I don't think the tone of the campaign has changed.

Of course you don't, it's not like the article provides any evidence of such a change.

I'm glad that we agree on something!
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2016, 04:11:57 PM »

Negative campaigning is part of politics. He doesn't have to do it in Vermont where even a dead person automatically gets elected to any office but governor as long as they are a Democrat or Socialist running against an R. Unfortunately for him, the rest of the country isn't like that.
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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2016, 04:13:24 PM »

In all honesty this race is already increasingly negative. Hillary might not have personally attacked Sanders, but her surrogates certainly do... so does the opposite side.
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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2016, 04:21:13 PM »

Negative campaigning is part of politics. He doesn't have to do it in Vermont where even a dead person automatically gets elected to any office but governor as long as they are a Democrat or Socialist running against an R. Unfortunately for him, the rest of the country isn't like that.

United States Senate special election in Vermont, 1972:[1]

Robert Stafford (Republican) – 45,888 (64.4%)
Randolph T. Major, Jr. (Democrat) – 23,842 (33.4%)
Bernie Sanders (Liberty Union) – 1,571 (2.2%)
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