Bill Clinton: BLM is defending murderers and drug dealers

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He's right but he was dumb to say it during a Democratic primary.

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Are we really comparing the actions of a random Sanders supporter, totally unaffiliated with his campaign, to Hillary Clinton's husband who was giving a speech at one of her rallies?

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The bill was to punish people for being criminals. Not to punish people for being Black.

Literally the only ones equating Black people with criminals are the BLM activists, who seem to think that all Black people are criminals, and thus an anti-crime bill is an attack on all Blacks.

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BLM is dying mainly because the cops haven't recently shot a Black person for no good reason. When it happens again, they will probably have an upsurge of support again. It doesn't happen as much as they like to believe though. If they weren't so militantly segregationist, they could use this story: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/unarmed-man-killed-arizona-cried-begged-life-article-1.2582759 but unfortunately they don't care about legitimate police reform.

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This may have killed the blm movement.   If a former dem president  ( a popular one) is slapping you down.

bill clinton has always been vocally anti-blm (read: garbage), this isn't gonna change anything lol

Yes, Ricky Ray Rector's life obviously didn't matter to Bill.

Proving Bill right. Literally defending a murderer.

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Bill Clinton was absolutely right to call out the BLM folks regarding this. It's a shame that black leaders won't talk about the fact that 90% of blacks who are murdered are murdered by other black people. So do those black lives matter, the ones who are killed by other black people? I suppose Bill Clinton is showing himself to be a racist, right? Please...

People are killed by people in their own communities. In the united states, this still means that communities are highly segregated. So black people commit crimes against black people. White people commit crimes against white people. If folks are going to talk about black on black crime, they should also talk about white on white crime. Or they should just realize diverting the argument to that crap adage is either an ignorant ploy by someone trying to win an argument or... kind of racist. Yes, crime does tend to be high in minority communities in this country. Oddly enough, poverty tends to be rather high there too. But folks looking at the situation always seem to forget that economic depression tends to bring with it criminal activity.

Have a look at the data if you don't think white on white crime is a thing: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

Most crimes against Whites are committed by other Whites, true. The difference between White on White crime and Black on Black crime is that Black on Black crime happens WAY MORE OFTEN. and that's before you taken into consideration that there are SEVEN TIMES AS MANY WHITE PEOPLE AS BLACK PEOPLE.

It's like if there were 10 White people murdered, 9 of them by White people. Meanwhile there were 100 Black people murdered, 90 of them by Black people, and you said "hey, the rate of crimes being interracial is 90% in both cases! There's no difference!"

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Black activists used to talk about it but now they actually can't anymore. They get labeled Uncle Toms. Look at the reaction Spike Lee got when he made a movie about Black on Black violence. When Spike Lee is a White supremacist, that's when you now accusations of racism have lost all meaning.

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Furthermore, this is a discussion about a crime bill, if now isn't an acceptable time to discuss the nature of crime, when is? This wasn't BLM protesting about someone getting shot (then you might have a point about deflection), this was literally BLM protesting about a crime bill.

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But more to the point, Bill Clinton is absolutely right. Most of the shootings that occur in black neighborhoods in big cities are committed by blacks, yet Black Lives Matter seems to focus mostly on police shootings. If not for the crime bill there would be even more crime in black neighborhoods. There were black members of Congress who voted for that bill, because it really was necessary.

I think that the reason why Black Lives Matter focuses on the police shootings.....is because.....unlike the "black on black killings," the police officers actually GET AWAY with murder....that could be it possibly....I don't know.

Sure and I agree often times concern for Black on Black crime is used as a distraction. Two things though:

1) The protesters in this instance were not talking about a police shooting. They were talking about a crime bill. Bill Clinton was not changing the subject. He was addressing it directly.

2) Seriously, a lot of activists are now denying Black on Black violence is a problem at all. They insist it's made up by Fox News and White supremacist power structure. They say "most crimes are intra-racial, regardless of race" Which as I pointed out above, ignores the fact that intra-racial Black violence happens way way more than intra-racial White violence,  even before you take into consideration proportionality, and then it's mind blowingly out of control.

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Sure and I agree often times concern for Black on Black crime is used as a distraction. Two things though:

1) The protesters in this instance were not talking about a police shooting. They were talking about a crime bill. Bill Clinton was not changing the subject. He was addressing it directly.

2) Seriously, a lot of activists are now denying Black on Black violence is a problem at all. They insist it's made up by Fox News and White supremacist power structure. They say "most crimes are intra-racial, regardless of race" Which as I pointed out above, ignores the fact that intra-racial Black violence happens way way more than intra-racial White violence,  even before you take into consideration proportionality, and then it's mind blowingly out of control.

Yes, and one other thing: if a Republican had made the exact same comments that Bill Clinton made, don't you think the screams about the racist right would be deafening by now? Yes, President Clinton was talking specifically about a crime bill, but if someone from the GOP tried to do the same, it simply wouldn't be allowed. So much for political discourse, I suppose...

Actually no. I think the idea that criminals should be punished for criminal behavior is not really as controversial as BLM/SJWs make it seem.