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America Needs R'hllor
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« on: December 24, 2016, 04:09:19 AM »

First Tier (pretty likely within the next one or two years, or otherwise "inevitable"):

Rest of Mexico, Taiwan, Australia, Switzerland, Costa Rica, Faroe Islands,

Second Tier (by 2020, I'd be surprised if the dominos hadn't fallen)

Greece, Italy, N. Ireland, Austria, Germany, Nepal, Malta, Costa Rica, Estonia

Third Tier: Wild-cards

Japan, S. Korea, Albania, Thailand, Israel (civil marriage would have to be enacted first), Vietnam, Ecuador, Venezuela, Chile (!), Bolivia (would have to be done via constitution though, so rather unlikely), Ecuador (same), Rest of EU, Cuba
Why Switzerland?

70% support according to a recent poll

Even UDC and PDC voters are in favour by wide margins.

I'm not aware that anyone is gathering signatures for a referendum though, so unlikely that it happens in the the next year or two.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Poll-76-percent-of-Jewish-Israelis-support-same-sex-marriage-or-civil-unions-455653

Even bigger numbers in Israel. That includes right wing voters, of course.
But it doesn't matter at all- as long as the religious extremist parties (Ultra Orthodox) are in the government, same sex marriage, unfourtunately, will never happen. And for now, it seems like they will be in every concieveable government.
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Parrotguy
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2016, 03:53:05 PM »

Even bigger numbers in Israel. That includes right wing voters, of course.
But it doesn't matter at all- as long as the religious extremist parties (Ultra Orthodox) are in the government, same sex marriage, unfourtunately, will never happen. And for now, it seems like they will be in every concieveable government.
It is obviously not only the haredim (though I agree they are the main opponents), otherwise it could have happened in the previous government. It is also Bayit Yehudi, and not everyone in the Likud supports it either.

The fact that civil marriage would have to be instituted doesn't help. I personally support instituting civil marriage only for same-sex couples, with straight people still having to do it the religious way, but that seems very unlikely (though perhaps something some religious people would not even object to as much as to civil marriage for everyone).

But yeah, unfortunately I am not even sure gay marriage in Israel will ever pass.
Out of interest, what is your reasoning? Why shouldn't straight couples be able to marry in a civil marriage, too? That'd solve problems like a Cohen and divorcee not being able to marry, for example.
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Parrotguy
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2017, 12:06:40 AM »

Still no Austria. Still no Germany. Merkel sure loves these refugees more than gay people. Still no Israel either; despite the Likud government's hasbara on Tel Aviv as gay destination they aren't willing to walk the walk. Very disappointing. This is not a trivial issue.

You can't expect a government that has any of the Homophobic Triangle of Shas, Torah Judaism and Jewish Home to be a friend to the lgbt community.
And yeah, the fact that there's no same sex marriage in Germany is extremely odd, especially since it's generally one of most pro-lgbt countries.
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