NDP Leadership Convention 2017

[RogueBeaver]

Sid Ryan says he'll run if he doesn't think the candidates are sufficiently left-wing.

[136or142]

I missed the debate. How was Charlie Angus' French?

[Holmes]

Perennial loser Sid Ryan...

[RogueBeaver]

Ryan will decide by month's end.

[DL]

Ryan will decide by month's end.

He explicitly says that the next leader of the NDP must be bilingual and admits that he speaks no French.

[Figueira]

Ryan will decide by month's end.

He explicitly says that the next leader of the NDP must be bilingual and admits that he speaks no French.

At least he's learning?

[lilTommy]

Its Official... Pat Stogran, Veteran's Ombudsman (2007-2010) and retired Colonel of the Canadian Forces Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry is in the NDP leadership race.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/video?clipId=1082401

Very interesting; a non-MP, Non-Leap supporter, Pragmatic "don't-call-me-socialist-social democrat-like" already said the previous platform was too expensive and un-realistic... so ok, very pro-PR. Good addition though to the field. Really hope Jagmeet enters soon...

[136or142]

Its Official... Pat Stogran, Veteran's Ombudsman (2007-2010) and retired Colonel of the Canadian Forces Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry is in the NDP leadership race.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/video?clipId=1082401

Very interesting; a non-MP, Non-Leap supporter, Pragmatic "don't-call-me-socialist-social democrat-like" already said the previous platform was too expensive and un-realistic... so ok, very pro-PR. Good addition though to the field. Really hope Jagmeet enters soon...

Did Dominic Cardy put Stogran up to this?  

More seriously, I hope Stogran campaigns on separating the provincial NDP parties from the federal party.  The issues are quite different at the two levels and supporting the NDP at one level does not necessarily lead to supporting them at the other level.

I know this is more of an issue for the provincial parties, especially those in provinces where  provincial versions of the Federal Liberal party aren't strong, but it would also help to have this advocated at the federal level.

[lilTommy]

Review of the Second Debate:

https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/second-ndp-leadership-debate-with-youth-issues-as-backdrop-differences-star

Criticism and accolades for each candidate, and a note on a push for others (ehemm Jagmeet) to hurry up and enter the race.

[Poirot]

That must be a complete review because I watched only 5-10 minutes and it was in the review.
A quick question on pineapple pizza (!). I was surprised by Angus not really giving an answer on his favorite form of voting system. 
 

[Poirot]

Sask MP Erin Weir endorsed Peter Julian.

[RogueBeaver]

Singh getting ready to jump in.

[Zioneer]

Singh getting ready to jump in.

I feel like he'll be either one of the best NDP leaders if he wins, or one of the worst.

[warandwar]

Singh getting ready to jump in.

I feel like he'll be either one of the best NDP leaders if he wins, or one of the worst.

great analysis!

[Zioneer]

Singh getting ready to jump in.

I feel like he'll be either one of the best NDP leaders if he wins, or one of the worst.

great analysis!

Well, what I mean is, he seems to be the type of politician where you love him or you hate him, and one that would never be called "average". I don't know much Canadian political history, but to me it's like the difference between FDR and say, James Buchanan. One is extremely talented and considered one of the greatest Democrats, and the other is considered one of the worst.

I think Jagmeet Singh will be like that. I think his leadership will be either really good or really bad, but not forgettable or mediocre.

[warandwar]

Singh getting ready to jump in.

I feel like he'll be either one of the best NDP leaders if he wins, or one of the worst.

great analysis!

Well, what I mean is, he seems to be the type of politician where you love him or you hate him, and one that would never be called "average". I don't know much Canadian political history, but to me it's like the difference between FDR and say, James Buchanan. One is extremely talented and considered one of the greatest Democrats, and the other is considered one of the worst.

I think Jagmeet Singh will be like that. I think his leadership will be either really good or really bad, but not forgettable or mediocre.

These are politicians, not Kanye albums.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

I find it interesting that the NDP might be optimistic enough to think Canadians will elect a brown guy Prime Minister.

Are we not supposed to say that? I have no faith in our people whatsoever.

[Vega]

I find it interesting that the NDP might be optimistic enough to think Canadians will elect a brown guy Prime Minister.

Are we not supposed to say that? I have no faith in our people whatsoever.

Canadians won't be electing any guy from the NDP Prime Minister, but do you really think there is that underbelly of racism in Canada? Seems like most are fine with the multiculturalism angle and are supportive of immigrants.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

I find it interesting that the NDP might be optimistic enough to think Canadians will elect a brown guy Prime Minister.

Are we not supposed to say that? I have no faith in our people whatsoever.

Canadians won't be electing any guy from the NDP Prime Minister, but do you really think there is that underbelly of racism in Canada? Seems like most are fine with the multiculturalism angle and are supportive of immigrants.

Yeah we have two current LGBTQ premiers, three female premiers, and have even elected an athiest premier.

[MaxQue]

I find it interesting that the NDP might be optimistic enough to think Canadians will elect a brown guy Prime Minister.

Are we not supposed to say that? I have no faith in our people whatsoever.

Canadians won't be electing any guy from the NDP Prime Minister, but do you really think there is that underbelly of racism in Canada? Seems like most are fine with the multiculturalism angle and are supportive of immigrants.

Yeah we have two current LGBTQ premiers, three female premiers, and have even elected an athiest premier.

Who is that last one?

[MAINEiac4434]

I honestly have more faith in Canada than us.

[warandwar]

I find it interesting that the NDP might be optimistic enough to think Canadians will elect a brown guy Prime Minister.

Are we not supposed to say that? I have no faith in our people whatsoever.

Canadians won't be electing any guy from the NDP Prime Minister, but do you really think there is that underbelly of racism in Canada? Seems like most are fine with the multiculturalism angle and are supportive of immigrants.

my cousins have felt some pretty significant racism there.

[DL]

I find it interesting that the NDP might be optimistic enough to think Canadians will elect a brown guy Prime Minister.

Are we not supposed to say that? I have no faith in our people whatsoever.

The US is a much more racist society than Canada and yet they twice a elected a black president names Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

[Babeuf]

Go to any article in the Canadian media about First Nations and check the comments to see some good old Canadian racism.

[lilTommy]

Canadians have a slight smug sense of superiority about racism, there is always the "well its not the US" and that's true. But frankly racism is everywhere. CDN large cities are like American or any in the world at being more accepting and open, while communities that are dominated by one race, or are small and rural tend to have this fear of the un-known. In general Canadian are more progressive socially though compared to Americans or even British. 
In rural Canada it tends to be weighted more heavily towards Aboriginals, as mentioned, particularly in the west or communities in the east near Reserves. I grew up in a border town with a Reserve and First Nations are still vilified as just smugglers and bums, unjustly so, but these are perceptions and old hate. The difference in Canada is that it is political death to be overtly anti-immigration, anti-multicultural. Canada's ethnic communities are huge voting blocks and can deliver governments (Chretien-Martin, Harper and now Trudeau) In particular Suburban Toronto and Vancouver. Even Conservatives won't oppose immigration but will call for more regulation on who gets in.