NDP Leadership Convention 2017

[136or142]

Guy Caron makes three.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/guy-caron-ndp-leadership-1.4000796

[lilTommy]

Early, and hearing that both the Ashton and Singh people are gearing up, and the Syd Ryan FB group is still pretty active but I just don't know how if that's happening:

https://thetyee.ca/News/2017/02/28/NDP-Leadership-Contest/

"the candidates bring different strengths to the race — Caron for his economist’s perspective, Angus for his working-class “punk rocker” background and Julian for his ability to organize."

[RogueBeaver]

Caron is a bit more dovish than Julian on Energy East. Singh's in no hurry.

[136or142]

Early, and hearing that both the Ashton and Singh people are gearing up, and the Syd Ryan FB group is still pretty active but I just don't know how if that's happening:

https://thetyee.ca/News/2017/02/28/NDP-Leadership-Contest/

"the candidates bring different strengths to the race — Caron for his economist’s perspective, Angus for his working-class “punk rocker” background and Julian for his ability to organize."

Guy Caron is the third economist to run for the NDP leadership going back to 1961.

[RogueBeaver]

Ashton entering next week.

[DL]

Ashton entering next week.

I'm pleased that there will be at least one woman in the race, but I find Niki Ashton to be trite, tedious and strident.

[Holmes]

Angus being leader would be cool because then I'd know what it's like to have a federal leader as an MP. Even if I don't live in the riding anymore.

[Vosem]

I'm not Canadian and it's difficult to imagine the circumstances under which I would vote NDP, but I rather liked Ashton during the last leadership race; seems she's the only repeat candidate, which is odd after having such a large and seemingly talented field last time around.

[136or142]

Ashton entering next week.

I'm pleased that there will be at least one woman in the race, but I find Niki Ashton to be trite, tedious and strident.

And those are her good points!  (Sorry)

[MaxQue]

I'm not Canadian and it's difficult to imagine the circumstances under which I would vote NDP, but I rather liked Ashton during the last leadership race; seems she's the only repeat candidate, which is odd after having such a large and seemingly talented field last time around.

Topp: Was Chief of Staff of Alberta Premier, left in December to "put his family back together", said he would never again run for leadership.
Cullen: Bad timing (his twins are 6), but might run in later races.
Nash: Lost her seat
Dewar: Lost his seat
Singh: Failed to be elected in 2015.
Chisholm: Lost his seat
Saganash: Is leaving politics at the end of this term.

[lilTommy]

From Ontario, Looks like Angus picks up two MPPs endorsements and Ashton one (I think, it's a paywall on iPolitics, so I had to go by twitter)

Angus wins Gilles Bisson (Timmins-James Bay) (big surprise there! lol) and John Vanthof (Timiskaming-Cochrane) support, both Northern ON MPPs

Ashton wins Cheri DiNovo's (Parkdale-High Park) support... I think, maybe someone who pays for iPolitics can confirm?

[DL]

and Chisholm and Saganash both dropped out of the race long before the actual vote took place. Even if Nash and Dewar had won their seats, I doubt if either would have run again. Dewar was really humiliated last time when he only got 7% of the vote and his French is as awful as ever. Nash is now in her mid-60s and underwhelmed a bit last time so i can't see her doing it again.

Of all the people who ran for the NDP leadership in 2012, the only people who I could really see running again were Cullen and Ashton

[DL]

Ashton wins Cheri DiNovo's (Parkdale-High Park) support... I think, maybe someone who pays for iPolitics can confirm?

That seems like strange timing. Ashton is not even formally running yet and has made no announcement...usually the endorsements happen at the earliest when a candidate announces...or later...not before!! But there have been rumours for some time about DiNovo's mental health

[lilTommy]

Ashton wins Cheri DiNovo's (Parkdale-High Park) support... I think, maybe someone who pays for iPolitics can confirm?

That seems like strange timing. Ashton is not even formally running yet and has made no announcement...usually the endorsements happen at the earliest when a candidate announces...or later...not before!! But there have been rumours for some time about DiNovo's mental health

Remember this is DiNovo, who announced a run at the leadership by not paying the fees, then dropped out due to health... I love the lady, but she is sporadic, or eclectic.   IF this is true... But Ashton is expected to jump next week.

[adma]

Angus wins Gilles Bisson (Timmins-James Bay) (big surprise there! lol) and John Vanthof (Timiskaming-Cochrane) support, both Northern ON MPPs

Keep in mind that because Northern Ontario provincial riding boundaries do not match federal (unlike Southern Ontario), *both* Bisson *and* Vanthof represent Charlie Angus territory.

[Hatman 🍁]

Caron is a bit more dovish than Julian on Energy East. Singh's in no hurry.

Hmm, I wonder what's taking him so long?

Anyways, RE: his opposition to Uber, from what I gather many millennial are starting to hate Uber, especially on the left, so no worry there. Not that we like taxis too much. But, I imagine many of his constituents are taxi drivers (well, based on stereotypes).

[lilTommy]

Niki Ashton is now in
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ashton-ndp-leadership-race-1.4013070

[toaster]

I wish Peggy Nash or Megan Leslie would enter.  Leslie would be my top choice.  Nash was a former labour organizer, so she would be good at bringing the urban Toronto latte sippers together with the Hamilton blue collar pro-union workers.

I'm not a big fan of Niki Ashton's style.  She's very much, in my view, too hard-line partisan.  The vocabulary she used with the "elbow-gate" was a turn off to most Canadians.  I don't think this hyper-sensationalism/hyper-reactions look good, and that is what I get from her.  I want someone who is willing to work with others, and take a stand based on issues not on politics.

[lilTommy]

I wish Peggy Nash or Megan Leslie would enter.  Leslie would be my top choice.  Nash was a former labour organizer, so she would be good at bringing the urban Toronto latte sippers together with the Hamilton blue collar pro-union workers.

I'm not a big fan of Niki Ashton's style.  She's very much, in my view, too hard-line partisan.  The vocabulary she used with the "elbow-gate" was a turn off to most Canadians.  I don't think this hyper-sensationalism/hyper-reactions look good, and that is what I get from her.  I want someone who is willing to work with others, and take a stand based on issues not on politics.

Nash is working with the ONDP as a Senior policy adviser right now, and Leaslie is working with WWF Canada. I'd really would have liked to see Megan run; she has a much more warm, less aggressive approach then Ashton plus it would be an East Coast candidate. It's a shame neither of them are looking to run (nor do I see Leslie running next federal, Nash maybe, but with the ONDP role, she might be looking to replace DiNovo is/when she stands down).
I never found Nash to be a strong speaker though, I think that held her back from really being widely supported. I do think Ashton can equally relate to the urban progressives, she is very social media savy and that how your going to engage urban, young members/voters. But we will see if her tone, approach changes... I just think she's pushing for the Canada's Bernie (who is equally very partisan)

Here's a good read in regards to NDP leaders:
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2017/03/05/no-job-in-canada-like-leading-the-ndp-sears.html

[DL]

I have a lot of time for Megan Leslie and I would have liked to have her in the race but her French is just as abysmal as Charlie Angus's

[Hatman 🍁]

Saw Jagmeet Singh on the Rick Mercer Report. Awesome segment, made me like him even more. Apparently he's a year-round cyclist like me! (Though I imagine that's a bit easier to do in Toronto then here).

[Holmes]

Angus wins Gilles Bisson (Timmins-James Bay) (big surprise there! lol) and John Vanthof (Timiskaming-Cochrane) support, both Northern ON MPPs

Keep in mind that because Northern Ontario provincial riding boundaries do not match federal (unlike Southern Ontario), *both* Bisson *and* Vanthof represent Charlie Angus territory.

Yeah. Technically. Bisson is moreso Angus' provincial counterpart than Vanthof. Both Angus and Bisson are based in Timmins.

I went to school with Bisson's niece and have seen him in Canadian Tire.

[MAINEiac4434]

Holding out for Jagmeet.

[Boston Bread]

Any thoughts on the debate? It didn't help me decide at all. Found it lacked enough substance (short time, and many questions were fluff), and where there was any everybody just seemed to agree with each other.

[Hatman 🍁]

Gonna wait for Jagmeet to enter before paying any attention to debates.

Also, interesting story today that Pat Stogran, Veteran's Ombudsman (2007-2010) and retired Colonel of the Canadian Forces Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry is considering a run.