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« on: April 11, 2016, 08:18:02 PM »

Virtually every swing state has had far greater Republican turnout than Democratic turnout.  Trump helps because he makes everyone else look really normal to the average voter.  We're heading for a Republican landslide this November, but you liberals can't see it.
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2016, 08:22:12 PM »
« Edited: April 11, 2016, 08:25:39 PM by Virginia »

Primary turnout has little to do with general election success. If it did, Democrats would have won in 1988, Republicans wouldn't have lost the popular vote in 2000 and Republicans would have won 2012 with their historic primary turnout figures.

For more information:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/primary-turnout-means-nothing-for-the-general-election/

But thanks for the smug, incorrect post.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2016, 08:25:13 PM »

Virtually every swing state has had far greater Republican turnout than Democratic turnout.  Trump helps because he makes everyone else look really normal to the average voter.  We're heading for a Republican landslide this November, but you liberals can't see it.

A landslide is impossible in our polarized political climate.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2016, 08:28:53 PM »
« Edited: April 11, 2016, 08:34:43 PM by Mehmentum »

Yes.  The Republican primary process has a lot of energy.  So does a train wreck.

People fleeing from a burning building are certainly doing so with enthusiasm, but I'd much rather live in a house that's not on fire.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2016, 08:37:59 PM »

I'll also mention that in 2008, the Democrats had higher turnout in many states that McCain eventually won, like Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, and even Oklahoma.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2016, 08:39:56 PM »

Fivethirtyeight isn't usually the best source, but they do provide very handy data from time to time:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/primary-turnout-means-nothing-for-the-general-election/
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2016, 08:40:30 PM »

I'll also mention that in 2008, the Democrats had higher turnout in many states that McCain eventually won, like Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, and even Oklahoma.

But higher Democratic turnout led to a Democratic landslide.
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2016, 08:51:59 PM »

But higher Democratic turnout led to a Democratic landslide.

Correlation does not necessarily equal causation.

If 10,000 Republicans and 15,000 Democrats will vote in November, and in the primaries, 6,000 Republicans and 3,000 Democrats vote, does it matter? Come November, Republicans are still outvoted.  These low turnout primaries make it pretty easy to have "high turnout", because compared to a GE, it's such a small amount of voters to begin with.

Are you one of those people who latches on to their own idea and even when proven wrong, they refuse to let go?
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2016, 08:52:29 PM »

I'll also mention that in 2008, the Democrats had higher turnout in many states that McCain eventually won, like Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, and even Oklahoma.

But higher Democratic turnout led to a Democratic landslide.

No, 8 years of George W. Bush, Sarah Palin being a John McCain heartbeat away from the Presidency, disapproval over the Iraq War, and an economic collapse led to a Democratic landslide.
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2016, 09:11:06 PM »

Most of the states that voted had already assumed Clinton was inevitable like in MI and die hard Sander voters are turning out more. If there was that much more excitement Rubio would have been nominated who is far more electable. Clinton is beating Trump
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2016, 10:04:00 PM »

Not only did Sanders get more votes in Oklahoma than Cruz, but Clinton got more votes than Trump. Where's your god now?
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2016, 10:08:39 PM »

The massive amount of Republican division will automatically cancel out the turnout factor so far and then some.
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2016, 10:20:48 PM »

This is obviously ExtremeRepublican's first election cycle he's ever paid any attention to. Let him off easy, guys.
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2016, 10:37:59 PM »

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Aside from 1988, and 2012, he's completely correct? That speaks volumes.
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2016, 10:41:27 PM »

I'm sorry, I read this thread title as "The Republicans Have More Excrement"
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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2016, 10:41:55 PM »
« Edited: April 11, 2016, 10:55:14 PM by The Unbearable Invicibility of Hillary Clinton »

Is the excitement more finding your hair is on fire excitement or more finding you're hanging from the ceiling by your genitalia excitement?
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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2016, 10:42:23 PM »
« Edited: April 11, 2016, 10:50:29 PM by ExtremeRepublican »

This is obviously ExtremeRepublican's first election cycle he's ever paid any attention to. Let him off easy, guys.

I have actually been paying close attention since I was 12.  I am actually quite politically involved and have personally met about half of this cycle's GOP candidates.
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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2016, 10:49:39 PM »

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Aside from 1988, and 2012, he's completely correct? That speaks volumes.

No, that's the thing, it really doesn't. The article I posted even has a chart, and explains why primary turnout isn't relevant here better than I could hope to.
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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2016, 10:51:47 PM »

This is obviously ExtremeRepublican's first election cycle he's ever paid any attention to. Let him off easy, guys.

I have actually been paying close attention since I was 12.  I am actually quite politically involved and have met about half of this cycle's GOP candidates. I am even having dinner with one tomorrow night!

Well, you're clearly paying a lot of attention to, and very invested in the GOP side of the race. However, when predicting a GE, you need to look at the big picture. The Democratic race hasn't gotten as much coverage and isn't as competitive as the GOP race, which doesn't mean that Democrats aren't going to turn out in November, especially if Republicans pick someone as conservative as Cruz or as outlandish as Trump. Trump and Cruz clearly have their appeal within the GOP, but that doesn't mean that they can expand their coalition enough to win a GE.
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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2016, 10:52:33 PM »

One of the first things covered in most classes is that correlation does not imply causation. In this case, there isn't even much correlation. If Republicans win in November, it won't be due to higher primary turnout.
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