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« on: April 12, 2016, 01:00:54 PM »

I have a feeling she could have this wrapped up by the 26th if she wins NY.
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2016, 01:14:14 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2016, 01:14:33 PM »

When (if?) she gets to 2026. Unlikely before June 7.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2016, 01:30:01 PM »

When (if?) she gets to 2026. Unlikely before June 7.

That's blasphemy! She should get it on June 7th 2116!
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2016, 01:33:23 PM »

Still think Sanders will get the nomination.
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2016, 01:34:09 PM »

It'll be wrapped up on the 26 but she won't reach 2383 until June 7.
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2016, 01:40:03 PM »

Still think Sanders will get the nomination.
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2016, 01:40:56 PM »

At the convention, she won't get a majority of delegates officially until the supers are counted.
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2016, 01:42:09 PM »

It'll be wrapped up on the 26 but she won't reach 2383 until June 7.
To get to 2027 pledged delegates she needs to win all the delegates on April 19 and April 26. So, it's possible that she can get to the needed 2026 by April 26. Good luck with that.
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2016, 02:39:18 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2016, 02:44:32 PM »

I think we ran the math on this a while back.  Including supers, clinching on June 5 (Puerto Rico) seemed possible, but is tougher considering her performance in recent weeks; she'd need to win around 62% of the pledged delegates (assuming no further super endorsements) in order to do so.

This seems like a pretty tall order, but she'll clinch anyway on June 7.  It seems likely that she and the media will declare victory that day (sorry, DC), although Sanders may continue a quixotic campaign until the convention.
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2016, 02:56:28 PM »

With Supes, June 7. But Sanders will say she doesn't have the necessary delegates and try to fight it.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2016, 03:02:49 PM »

Depends how you define "clinch." By the most restrictive definition, she won't clinch the nomination until the convention.

But if you mean realistically, March 15th or March 1st. IA/SC were canaries in the coal mine, but I wouldn't say she really clinched it until Super Tuesday, and then the last thin sliver of hope was wiped out on March 15th.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2016, 03:19:14 PM »

She won't reach the magic number until June 7th, but it was all but certain by March 15th.
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2016, 03:21:32 PM »

June 7th.
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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2016, 03:27:18 PM »

Just for the record, Clinton supporters here have always thought that she was inevitable, even before the Iowa caucus, so to say that she is inevitable before getting to the majority of pledgeds, is open to debate at the very least. I had previously stated that I thought she was fairly certain to win on the day of the Michigan primary, because I thought she would win Michigan. When she lost, I realized I was falling for Clintonthink.
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2016, 03:33:53 PM »

She clinches after Cali is counted as Sanders name and votes will be counted still in caucus states.
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2016, 03:34:14 PM »

By the way, look what people thought on Jan 1, 2016:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=225634.msg4845978#msg4845978
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2016, 03:35:24 PM »

At the convention, she won't get a majority of delegates officially until the supers are counted.

This.
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2016, 03:43:34 PM »

At the convention, she won't get a majority of delegates officially until the supers are counted.

This.

Well that's true in any primary, even if she does get enough pledged delegates to make the superdelegates irrelevant.
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2016, 03:55:47 PM »

She won't
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2016, 04:02:45 PM »

While technically she cannot until the convention, she 'clinches' when Sanders concedes. Certainly if the ~500 supers she currently has stay with her, then it is essentially impossible for her not to have 2383 on June 7th. The only question is, will Sanders accept it (like how Clinton conceded to Obama a couple days after the last primary in 2008 when he announced enough supers to put him over the top).

If Sanders does catch up to Clinton in pledged delegates and/or passes her PV margin, then there will be a big question about the supers. Otherwise there is going to be enormous pressure on Sanders to concede after CA and certainly after DC. If he refuses to do so, it will put the party in an awkward position. Do they build a convention schedule around a Clinton victory or go through the charade of how the supers supporting Clinton could change their mind and vote Sanders? I suspect that even if Sanders doesn't concede, the party will declare Clinton the 'presumptive nominee' based on survey of the supers and just ignore his refusal to endorse/concede.
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2016, 04:26:40 PM »


Can you do math? Or are you one of the people who think she'll be indicted? lol
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2016, 04:37:55 PM »


Can you do math? Or are you one of the people who think she'll be indicted? lol

It's not mathematically impossible for her to lose, but it's very unlikely for this reason.
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2016, 04:55:24 PM »


Can you do math? Or are you one of the people who think she'll be indicted? lol

It's not mathematically impossible for her to lose, but it's very unlikely for this reason.

Well yeah, it's not impossible. In the same sense that it wasn't impossible for McCain to win in 08 after losing Ohio. It requires ludicrous unimaginable scenarios basically.
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