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« Reply #725 on: June 10, 2016, 07:31:19 AM »

Does a VP nominee have to consent to be added to the ticket? Could Kasicj just be jammed on despite protesting?

Yes, they have to accept the nomination.
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« Reply #726 on: June 10, 2016, 08:25:01 AM »

Warren to meet with Hillary at the Clinton's DC home this morning
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« Reply #727 on: June 10, 2016, 08:59:21 AM »

I like Warren, but she should stay in the senate. Castro or Booker would make a better Vice President. Kaine and Franken would also be solid picks. I also wouldn’t mind to keep Uncle Joe on the second spot, though that’s no realistic scenario.
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« Reply #728 on: June 10, 2016, 09:14:00 AM »

I like Warren, but she should stay in the senate. Castro or Booker would make a better Vice President. Kaine and Franken would also be solid picks. I also wouldn’t mind to keep Uncle Joe on the second spot, though that’s no realistic scenario.

I know I say this ad nauseum ... Booker and Castro (one is in actually in the pockets of Wall St and other is a nice guy with an interesting story but no real accomplishments) would be complete disasters. Kaine would be OK? But fundamentally nothing. Franken's the only one in that list who I think can do the job required.
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« Reply #729 on: June 10, 2016, 09:25:35 AM »

I like Warren, but she should stay in the senate. Castro or Booker would make a better Vice President. Kaine and Franken would also be solid picks. I also wouldn’t mind to keep Uncle Joe on the second spot, though that’s no realistic scenario.

I know I say this ad nauseum ... Booker and Castro (one is in actually in the pockets of Wall St and other is a nice guy with an interesting story but no real accomplishments) would be complete disasters. Kaine would be OK? But fundamentally nothing. Franken's the only one in that list who I think can do the job required.

Well, Kaine has legislative and executive experience. He would be a solid pick. And he’s from a swing state and speaks Spanish.
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« Reply #730 on: June 10, 2016, 09:29:03 AM »

I like Warren, but she should stay in the senate. Castro or Booker would make a better Vice President. Kaine and Franken would also be solid picks. I also wouldn’t mind to keep Uncle Joe on the second spot, though that’s no realistic scenario.

I know I say this ad nauseum ... Booker and Castro (one is in actually in the pockets of Wall St and other is a nice guy with an interesting story but no real accomplishments) would be complete disasters. Kaine would be OK? But fundamentally nothing. Franken's the only one in that list who I think can do the job required.

Well, Kaine has legislative and executive experience. He would be a solid pick. And he’s from a swing state and speaks Spanish.

And inspires no one.  Hilary lacks excitement on her ticket.  Warren would add that, without any of the negatives associated with Julian Castro or Cory Booker.
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« Reply #731 on: June 10, 2016, 09:32:46 AM »

I like Warren, but she should stay in the senate. Castro or Booker would make a better Vice President. Kaine and Franken would also be solid picks. I also wouldn’t mind to keep Uncle Joe on the second spot, though that’s no realistic scenario.

I know I say this ad nauseum ... Booker and Castro (one is in actually in the pockets of Wall St and other is a nice guy with an interesting story but no real accomplishments) would be complete disasters. Kaine would be OK? But fundamentally nothing. Franken's the only one in that list who I think can do the job required.

Well, Kaine has legislative and executive experience. He would be a solid pick. And he’s from a swing state and speaks Spanish.

And inspires no one.  Hilary lacks excitement on her ticket.  Warren would add that, without any of the negatives associated with Julian Castro or Cory Booker.

I don’t say she would be a bad choice, but Hillary needs more male votes. So, a male VP may bring in them.

I consider Booker unlikely, however, because he would leave Christie to appoint a successor. And, as we know, the senate control is at stake.
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« Reply #732 on: June 10, 2016, 10:21:55 AM »

I like Warren, but she should stay in the senate. Castro or Booker would make a better Vice President. Kaine and Franken would also be solid picks. I also wouldn’t mind to keep Uncle Joe on the second spot, though that’s no realistic scenario.

I know I say this ad nauseum ... Booker and Castro (one is in actually in the pockets of Wall St and other is a nice guy with an interesting story but no real accomplishments) would be complete disasters. Kaine would be OK? But fundamentally nothing. Franken's the only one in that list who I think can do the job required.

Well, Kaine has legislative and executive experience. He would be a solid pick. And he’s from a swing state and speaks Spanish.

And inspires no one.  Hilary lacks excitement on her ticket.  Warren would add that, without any of the negatives associated with Julian Castro or Cory Booker.

I don’t say she would be a bad choice, but Hillary needs more male votes. So, a male VP may bring in them.

I see no reason why we have to cater to them.  Any man intending on voting against Hillary because of her gender is highly unlikely to change his mind because she selected a bro instead of another woman.    

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The MA legislature is under solid Dem control.  And I really want that all-woman ticket.  
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« Reply #733 on: June 10, 2016, 10:47:03 AM »

An all-woman ticket would certainly up the odds that Trump stumbles across a sexist remark that is finally actually disqualifying.

But I'm torn as to whether that actually exists. The misogyny of the male electorate seems to know no bounds. So banking on the above strategy could be risky...
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« Reply #734 on: June 10, 2016, 11:10:18 AM »

An all-woman ticket would certainly up the odds that Trump stumbles across a sexist remark that is finally actually disqualifying.

But I'm torn as to whether that actually exists. The misogyny of the male electorate seems to know no bounds. So banking on the above strategy could be risky...

fck the risk imo. we're never gonna get anywhere if we keep trying to appease bigots.
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« Reply #735 on: June 10, 2016, 12:10:52 PM »

Senator Casey, same state as Rendell.

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« Reply #736 on: June 10, 2016, 12:16:17 PM »

An all-woman ticket would certainly up the odds that Trump stumbles across a sexist remark that is finally actually disqualifying.

But I'm torn as to whether that actually exists. The misogyny of the male electorate seems to know no bounds. So banking on the above strategy could be risky...

No need to be torn, it doesn't exist. Tongue

But Warren could be a good pick for other reasons.
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« Reply #737 on: June 10, 2016, 04:16:58 PM »

Warren needs to stay in the Senate. Few other Senators sponsor the kind of legislation she does. She is in a position to push Clinton to the left on Wall Street regulation. Hard to do as a loyal VEEP. She doesn't add racial or gender diversity, she doesn't add geographic diversity.
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« Reply #738 on: June 10, 2016, 05:58:00 PM »

Andrea Mitchell confirms that Warren is being considered for VP.
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« Reply #739 on: June 10, 2016, 05:59:09 PM »

I'm certain that Warren is the favorite for VP. I really don't think they're even trying to hide it.
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« Reply #740 on: June 10, 2016, 06:03:17 PM »

I really don't think they're even trying to hide it.

Well... no. Doesn't happen very often that any old senator gets invited to a candidate's house the morning after endorsing them on national TV and saying that they're qualified to take the job. I expect more meetings between them.
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« Reply #741 on: June 10, 2016, 06:49:07 PM »

With Clinton at the top of the ticket, are the demographics of the VP really going to have that much sway? I think Kaine would be solid but Warren brings much needed energy. In fact, she's been my favorite person this election season. Not only will she destroy Trump, but she explains her ideas in a logical, clear, simple but not dumbing-down fashion. Sanders presents his progressive ideas in a more extreme manner than Warren and sounds too angry at times. I like her speaking style and how she presents her ideas. I'm officially for Clinton/Warren.
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« Reply #742 on: June 10, 2016, 06:53:43 PM »

Yeah, the thing with how Warren will alienate people who aren't left-wing... she's similar to Sanders and his best demographic was independents, which (and my husband will be so happy with me saying this) Clinton really needs and is a bit weak with. I think that talking point is way overstated. Warren also doesn't have all the socialist baggage that Sanders has, and she's non-threatening. I mean, if you don't like the idea of two women on a Presidential ticket, then you're hopeless either way.
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« Reply #743 on: June 10, 2016, 11:02:54 PM »

The MA legislature is under solid Dem control.  

I read in the Globe the other day that there's apparently very little political will in the General Court for changing the law to strip Baker of his appointment power. For some inexplicable reason almost everybody in Massachusetts has been acting for the past year and a half like he's made of solid gold.
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« Reply #744 on: June 10, 2016, 11:24:05 PM »

The MA legislature is under solid Dem control.  

I read in the Globe the other day that there's apparently very little political will in the General Court for changing the law to strip Baker of his appointment power. For some inexplicable reason almost everybody in Massachusetts has been acting for the past year and a half like he's made of solid gold.

But the appointment would only be for a few months anyway, right?  If Warren resigns in November, then when is the special election?  February?
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« Reply #745 on: June 10, 2016, 11:38:29 PM »

The MA legislature is under solid Dem control.  

I read in the Globe the other day that there's apparently very little political will in the General Court for changing the law to strip Baker of his appointment power. For some inexplicable reason almost everybody in Massachusetts has been acting for the past year and a half like he's made of solid gold.

But the appointment would only be for a few months anyway, right?  If Warren resigns in November, then when is the special election?  February?


Kirk and Cowan each served for about five months. If Warren resigned in November then the election would be around April.

The Senate could very well be 50-50 after this election, and I don't think national Democrats will want to jeopardize a majority at the beginning of the Congress. In that situation I could see Warren staying in the Senate until January 19 to ensure that a Democratic majority set the Senate rules for the 115th Congress, actually.
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« Reply #746 on: June 11, 2016, 04:48:57 AM »

Kaine says he agrees with the Heller decision on gun rights:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/clinton-vp-prospect-tim-kaine-supports-heller-gun-decision?utm_term=.invX9Pg2R#.nyYVQ93pn

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« Reply #747 on: June 11, 2016, 04:53:18 AM »

If Hillary picks Warren, TRUMP should consider Chris Christie. He's a fantastic debater and would destroy Warren.
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« Reply #748 on: June 11, 2016, 04:59:20 AM »

Just listened to Kasich on Fox. Not only was he adamant that he would not be Trump's VP but clearly said that he would not endorse Trump, even at the Convention in Cleveland, and in response to whether he prefers Clinton or Trump said "those are not very good choices".

So, if Trump is looking to his competitors, it would have to be Rubio.
He continued to say that he means that he won't endorse Trump unless Trump becomes less unifying. That's not "clearly not endorsing Trump" to me.
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« Reply #749 on: June 11, 2016, 05:07:44 AM »

If Hillary picks Warren, TRUMP should consider Chris Christie.

I doubt Clinton will announce her pick until after Trump has announced his.
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