IN-Sen: Sen Mike Lee (R-UT) endorses Marlin Stutzman (R-IN) for Senate
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« on: April 14, 2016, 10:46:58 AM »

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mike-lee-backs-stutzman-in-gop-senate-race/article/2588207
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2016, 03:46:15 PM »

Won't make a difference. I wonder what would be better for Republicans: Nominating Young in 2016 and Stutzman running against Donnelly in 2018 or Stutzman in 2016 and Young running against Donnelly in 2018? Probably the latter.

Yeah, can't risk Stutzman against a Democratic incumbent.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2016, 03:58:17 PM »

Though I like Young better than Stutzman, I think either will beat Hill (assuming they don't screw up like (Mourdock did), and I think it's best for Stutzman to run and win this open seat, then Young, having gained statewide recognition, can run against Donnelly next year.  Young is much stronger against Donnelly than Stutzman.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2016, 03:58:56 PM »

Isn't Stutzman the (relative) moderate?
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2016, 04:01:10 PM »

Isn't Stutzman the (relative) moderate?

No, he's like a Cruz-like conservative.
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2016, 04:06:53 PM »

Carly Fiorina also just endorsed Stutzman (and Toomey and Lee).
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2016, 04:34:03 PM »

Is the primary on May 3? Cruz's coattails may carry Stutzman across the finish line.
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2016, 05:31:26 PM »

Young should probably win now so either Stutzman loses to Donnelly in 2018, or someone more moderate beats Donnelly in 2018.
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2016, 05:45:00 PM »

I'm 2018 there's a decent chance Rokita or Brooks run for the senate seat as well I think. Young should win this although lately there have been many articles thing him to the "establishment" which may help Stutzman. Young is killing Stutzman in terms of tv and radio ads and has more local endorsements, while they both have decent ground games with an edge toward Stutzman. Young has been pushing his military experience and has been very on message.
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2016, 07:07:56 PM »

I'm 2018 there's a decent chance Rokita or Brooks run for the senate seat as well I think. Young should win this although lately there have been many articles thing him to the "establishment" which may help Stutzman. Young is killing Stutzman in terms of tv and radio ads and has more local endorsements, while they both have decent ground games with an edge toward Stutzman. Young has been pushing his military experience and has been very on message.
I'm rooting for Young.  I have heard rumors of Todd Rokita running in 2018.  If both are Senators, then Indiana would have two Senators named Todd.  There are also tumors that Ballard may challenge Donnelly in 2018.  Indiana is clearly a top target for GOP pickup in 2018 (along with MO, MT and ND), but against an incumbent they need a strong recruit.  Ballard would be a good candidate, IMO.  I can see Stutzman blowing a Senate race.
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2016, 08:28:53 PM »

I'm 2018 there's a decent chance Rokita or Brooks run for the senate seat as well I think. Young should win this although lately there have been many articles thing him to the "establishment" which may help Stutzman. Young is killing Stutzman in terms of tv and radio ads and has more local endorsements, while they both have decent ground games with an edge toward Stutzman. Young has been pushing his military experience and has been very on message.
I'm rooting for Young.  I have heard rumors of Todd Rokita running in 2018.  If both are Senators, then Indiana would have two Senators named Todd.  There are also tumors that Ballard may challenge Donnelly in 2018.  Indiana is clearly a top target for GOP pickup in 2018 (along with MO, MT and ND), but against an incumbent they need a strong recruit.  Ballard would be a good candidate, IMO.  I can see Stutzman blowing a Senate race.

Stutzman isn't gonna lose this one. The establishment wing will not get both seats. They can take the one in 2018. We (the grassroots) get this one. Meaning the grassroots will have the distinction of being the senior senator.
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2016, 01:05:16 AM »

Risking Stuzman against Donnelly would be risky, as others have said, so I guess this makes sense. Ballard would probably be the best guy to put up against Donnelly in 2018. He's no Lugar, but I'd take him over most anyone else.

Kind of sad Bayh didn't pull a Coats and run, but he was an ineffectual Senator, so whatever. If the pro-business, anti-Pence vote crosses over into the Senate race, and Clinton makes a strong showing like Obama did in '08, Hill winning would be possible. Unlikely, but possible.
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2016, 09:22:56 PM »

Fiorina endorses Stutzman.
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2016, 01:17:21 PM »

Don't have the link but Stutzman was just found to have used campaign money for personal trips.
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2016, 01:41:04 PM »

Don't have the link but Stutzman was just found to have used campaign money for personal trips.
Yep, you're right.  This may be the end for him.
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2016/04/20/ap-rep-marlin-stutzman-bills-campaign-family-trip/83286420/
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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2016, 04:46:51 PM »

It will never be the end of Stutzman, apparently, because Sen Rand Paul just endorsed Stutzman:

http://www.tristatehomepage.com/election/ylehq/rand-paul-endorses-marlin-stutzman-in-senate-race

I wonder how this is affecting McConnell and Rand's relationship...
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2016, 12:44:02 AM »

He repaid his campaign.  Still rooting for Young, I prefer the less extreme candidates. http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2016/04/20/stutzman-repays-campaign-family-trip/83306038/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2016, 01:24:20 AM »


Young is a squish and towed the Boehner/establishment line. Stutzman is the states best representative in the house currently. Why do you call him more extreme? Because the Senate Conservatives (Lee Paul, likely Cruz etc) are rallying to him.
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2016, 07:41:55 AM »


Young is a squish and towed the Boehner/establishment line. Stutzman is the states best representative in the house currently. Why do you call him more extreme? Because the Senate Conservatives (Lee Paul, likely Cruz etc) are rallying to him.

Because the Senate Conservatives (Lee Paul, likely Cruz etc) are rallying to him.
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2016, 08:52:02 AM »

I know his thread isn't about who we support, but I like Young better because he's more solution focused and pragmatic. Probably the opposite trait of what the Stutzman people are looking for. I happened to talk to Abdul Hakeem Shabazz who mentioned he had seen polling that wasn't public showing Young ahead by just a little more than the margin of error.
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2016, 04:51:33 PM »

I know his thread isn't about who we support, but I like Young better because he's more solution focused and pragmatic. Probably the opposite trait of what the Stutzman people are looking for. I happened to talk to Abdul Hakeem Shabazz who mentioned he had seen polling that wasn't public showing Young ahead by just a little more than the margin of error.
I totally agree.  Any publicly released polls?
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