Trump gets obliterated by Cruz forces in Georgia's District Conventions
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 26, 2024, 05:25:57 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Election Archive
  Election Archive
  2016 U.S. Presidential Election
  Trump gets obliterated by Cruz forces in Georgia's District Conventions
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3
Author Topic: Trump gets obliterated by Cruz forces in Georgia's District Conventions  (Read 3683 times)
#TheShadowyAbyss
TheShadowyAbyss
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,033
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Political Matrix
E: -5.81, S: -3.64

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: April 17, 2016, 05:58:28 AM »
« edited: April 17, 2016, 06:03:34 AM by #TheShadowyAbyss »

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/04/16/donald-trump-gets-outmaneuvered-by-ted-cruz-forces-in-georgia/


And then there's this

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.
Logged
#TheShadowyAbyss
TheShadowyAbyss
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,033
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Political Matrix
E: -5.81, S: -3.64

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2016, 06:07:43 AM »

Wow.... is there any place where Trump doesn't get obliterated by Cruz forces? lol

Well, in this case it seems evidence Rubio supporters teamed up with Cruz supporters to lock out many Trump delegates, so it's somewhat interesting lol.
Logged
Doimper
Doctor Imperialism
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3,030


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2016, 06:33:56 AM »

Wow.... is there any place where Trump doesn't get obliterated by Cruz forces? lol

Cruz has a ridiculously competent campaign, whereas I don't think Trump was seriously expecting to win the nomination until relatively recently.

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that Cruz is going to pull off the nomination despite Trump's advantage in pledged delegates, and if he does say hello to DNC '68 on steroids.
Logged
Ljube
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,060
Political Matrix
E: 2.71, S: -6.09

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2016, 08:07:41 AM »

The system is rigged. This will cause a popular outrage among the Trump supporters and only help Trump win the required 1237 delegates the regular way and win on the first ballot.
Logged
MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,763
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2016, 08:20:53 AM »

The system is rigged. This will cause a popular outrage among the Trump supporters and only help Trump win the required 1237 delegates the regular way and win on the first ballot.


If Trump would've had his people stay to vote for delegates this wouldn't be happening.
Logged
Classic Conservative
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,628


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2016, 08:32:39 AM »

The system is rigged. This will cause a popular outrage among the Trump supporters and only help Trump win the required 1237 delegates the regular way and win on the first ballot.

Maybe if they had better organization for these delegate caucuses they would do better. Later this month in MA, we have Congressional District Caucuses and Trump won over 49% of the vote here and they haven't even started organizing for the caucuses.
Logged
Phony Moderate
Obamaisdabest
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,298
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2016, 08:39:27 AM »

Cruz's supporters are more likely to be ideologues than TRUMP's, so not surprising.
Logged
Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin
Runeghost
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,464


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2016, 08:45:44 AM »

The system is rigged. This will cause a popular outrage among the Trump supporters and only help Trump win the required 1237 delegates the regular way and win on the first ballot.


The system is rigged against Trump, so he'll win? I think there's something wrong with part of that reasoning.
Logged
Volrath50
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 814
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -3.35, S: -5.57

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2016, 08:52:54 AM »

So to be clear, in Georgia, Cruz is basically electing ninja delegates, right? Delegates who are bound to vote for Trump on the first ballot, but will switch to Cruz on the second ballot?

If Cruz wins this way, basically by overturning the actual election results through sneaky backroom dealings, there will be riots in Cleveland and his GE election campaign will have serious legitimacy concerns - not to mention the paranoia around Democrats who remember 2000 and will try to portray Cruz as planning to steal the election, like he did the nomination.
Logged
Torie
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 46,076
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -3.48, S: -4.70

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2016, 09:04:33 AM »

The system is rigged. This will cause a popular outrage among the Trump supporters and only help Trump win the required 1237 delegates the regular way and win on the first ballot.


The system is rigged against Trump, so he'll win? I think there's something wrong with part of that reasoning.

Isn't it more, just the gang bang? Trump's problem is that all the others with delegates want to stop him. That is less true of Cruz, at least with the Rubio faction. If team Rubio had Trump as the consolation prize, then it would have been Cruz that was burned.
Logged
Figueira
84285
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,175


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2016, 09:08:17 AM »

The system is rigged. This will cause a popular outrage among the Trump supporters and only help Trump win the required 1237 delegates the regular way and win on the first ballot.


The system is rigged against Trump, so he'll win? I think there's something wrong with part of that reasoning.

It's the best of both worlds: Ljube gets to be optimistic about his candidate, AND cry about how everyone is biased against him!
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2016, 09:10:01 AM »

As much as I dislike Trump, this is truly disguisting.
Logged
Figueira
84285
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,175


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2016, 09:12:08 AM »

As much as I dislike Trump, this is truly disguisting.

I have to agree. The voters are choosing Trump; they should let him have the nomination.
Logged
The Free North
CTRattlesnake
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,568
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2016, 09:19:37 AM »

The system is rigged. This will cause a popular outrage among the Trump supporters and only help Trump win the required 1237 delegates the regular way and win on the first ballot.


The system is not 'rigged' at all. The nomination process for delegates is has been known for years and Trump's failure to actually know the rules is his fault and no one else's. 
Logged
yankeesfan
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,148
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2016, 09:30:17 AM »

Just like Trump exploited all of the rules of the Bankruptcy Court to their fullest advantage to win, Cruz is exploiting all the rules of the RNC nomination process.  Trump should understand that.
Logged
Sbane
sbane
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,308


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2016, 10:02:37 AM »

As much as I dislike Trump, this is truly disguisting.

Bullsh**t. Trump needs to be stopped and any means to do so is acceptable. Of course they are merely using the existing rules here so I don't see what the problem is.
Logged
Torie
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 46,076
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -3.48, S: -4.70

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2016, 10:14:21 AM »

As much as I dislike Trump, this is truly disguisting.

Bullsh**t. Trump needs to be stopped and any means to do so is acceptable. Of course they are merely using the existing rules here so I don't see what the problem is.

I can't quite decide which one of us hates Trump more. What do you think?  Smiley

Oh, hi friend by the way. How's it going?
Logged
Donnie
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 351


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2016, 10:20:30 AM »

This is getting grotesque.
Logged
Sbane
sbane
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,308


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2016, 10:29:07 AM »

As much as I dislike Trump, this is truly disguisting.

Bullsh**t. Trump needs to be stopped and any means to do so is acceptable. Of course they are merely using the existing rules here so I don't see what the problem is.

I can't quite decide which one of us hates Trump more. What do you think?  Smiley

Oh, hi friend by the way. How's it going?

Haha it has to be me. I can't imagine anyone hating him more. Smiley

I'm doing well and hope you are doing the same. Btw, I'm voting for Cruz. Who would have thought that would happen. Tongue
Logged
Mr. Morden
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 44,073
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2016, 11:09:40 AM »

As much as I dislike Trump, this is truly disguisting.

I have to agree. The voters are choosing Trump; they should let him have the nomination.

"The voters are choosing Trump."  Except that not a single state that's voted so far has seen a majority of voters support him.
Logged
Wisconsin+17
Ben Kenobi
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,134
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2016, 11:25:31 AM »

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.

Last I checked a majority of Georgians voted against Trump.

Trump has won more delegates than voters, especially in places like Missouri where he won by fewer than a thousand votes, and took home 30+ delegates.

Did you see Cruz *****ing about that? Nope. He manned up and decided to pummel Trump in the upcoming states.

Since March 23rd, Cruz is 100+ delegates up. And that doesn't include Utah.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2016, 11:52:55 AM »

As much as I dislike Trump, this is truly disguisting.

Bullsh**t. Trump needs to be stopped and any means to do so is acceptable. Of course they are merely using the existing rules here so I don't see what the problem is.

The problem is not whether we support Trump of Cruz, the problem is that primary votes should matter. I'm very much in favor of Sanders, but I dissaprove of him getting more delegates than Hillary in Nevada, despite losing the state.
Logged
SATW
SunriseAroundTheWorld
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,463
United States
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2016, 11:58:16 AM »

Good. Party primaries aren't apart of the government. They don't have to play by the same rules.
Logged
Sbane
sbane
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,308


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2016, 12:42:22 PM »

As much as I dislike Trump, this is truly disguisting.

Bullsh**t. Trump needs to be stopped and any means to do so is acceptable. Of course they are merely using the existing rules here so I don't see what the problem is.

The problem is not whether we support Trump of Cruz, the problem is that primary votes should matter. I'm very much in favor of Sanders, but I dissaprove of him getting more delegates than Hillary in Nevada, despite losing the state.
Again, as I mentioned, stopping Trump by any means is acceptable to me. A fascist should not be the nominee of one of the two major parties.

Also, trump hasn't got the majority of the votes in any state so why should he be entitled to the majority of delegates? And before you go on about rules, Cruz is also just using the existing rules in his favor. Additionally, if the Republicans had similar rules to the Democrats, Trump wouldn't have been able to get even close to a majority of the delegates because he only gets about 40% of the vote. If anything the rules are stacked in his favor, not against him.
Logged
Lyin' Steve
SteveMcQueen
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3,310


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2016, 12:56:42 PM »

This is so frustrating to watch.  I'm not a Trump supporter by any means but what's happening is deeply unfair.  To those who say "it's part of the game", do you remember Romney or McCain or W having to go back to elections they had already won and re-fight them, not to win votes, but to outmanouver local party activists abusing the rulebook to put up delegates who support the guy who lost instead of the guy who won?  It's insane that this can happen.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.048 seconds with 13 queries.