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pbrower2a
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« on: April 18, 2016, 12:10:51 PM »
« edited: April 18, 2016, 12:22:08 PM by pbrower2a »


Donald Trump is the worst cultural match for Utah that the Republican Party could come up with. Cruz and Kasich do well enough. Republicans are doing well in gubernatorial and senatorial polls. So maybe the trouble is with Donald Trump and not the poll. Does having had  your name attached to vodka, let alone gambling casinos, sound like a good way to win the votes of Mormons? What's next? Trump cigarettes?

Then there are the multiple failed marriages, something very un-Mormon. 

Utah has only six electoral votes, but in view of how Republicans are doing in other states, the usual swing states, it is a state that the GOP dare not lose in a Presidential election.

This is the same firm as the other one.  Let's see someone else replicate this before we worry about Utah if Trump is the nominee.

True, but it polled again and got the same result. Do you have evidence that this is a push poll?
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2016, 12:27:29 PM »

This is the same firm as the other one.  Let's see someone else replicate this before we worry about Utah if Trump is the nominee.
I dunno, it shows the state is still super Republican without Trump on the ballot.

That's the point.

I can imagine many Utahns voting for a Third Party or independent conservative rather than for Trump. 39-37-24 is good for the person winning 39. That could be Hillary Clinton. 

49% is close to the ceiling for Sanders in Utah, but if an independent or third-Party conservative is able to get even 3% of the total vote, Utah goes to Sanders.
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2016, 03:06:27 PM »

Toss-up, Clinton vs. Trump 

Edge D, Sanders vs. Trump.

Strong R,  any other Presidential matchup and Senatorial and Gubernatorial races.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2016, 09:50:33 PM »

I was called a troll in 2015 for calling this. Unbelievable. I will not accept my accolades.

I love this new Republican Party. Get these pansies out of my party.

I thought it possible, but something more in line with prophecy than with prediction.

So is it possible for someone on the Left to so offend the sensibilities  of Maryland voters that Maryland will go to the Republican nominee some time? Yes.
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2016, 11:45:20 PM »


He may be an alcoholic or a diabetic, for all I know. By "alcoholic" I here mean the AA use -- that some people are born alcoholic because of their metabolism, and that alcoholics who give up drinking are still alcoholics who simply are not drinking at the time.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2016, 06:07:38 PM »


He may be an alcoholic or a diabetic, for all I know. By "alcoholic" I here mean the AA use -- that some people are born alcoholic because of their metabolism, and that alcoholics who give up drinking are still alcoholics who simply are not drinking at the time.

This is the dumbest post I've read this week, and Shadows has posted here.

Why is it so dumb? Would I judge someone for being a diabetic or for having a metabolic problem with liquor?

That was speculation on my part, and I avoid malign speculation. Rejecting hard drink because one can't handle liquor  is reasonable and even admirable.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2016, 06:14:48 PM »

38% statewide would probably mean that UT-4 would turn blue and boot Mia Love down ballot. If Democrats could gain some good footing in Salt Lake County that they could possibly make stick in the future, that would great

That's the plan. We want to make sure Mia Love loses, and to take back several legislative seats we lost in 2014. After that, there's a few more seats that are winnable. Our long-therm plan is to break the super-majority and turn it into a regular majority.

EDIT: As for my alcohol shilling remark, whether or not he personally drinks, as I understand it, he's done commercials and such in support of some alcohol beverages. Mormons might not like that, was my point.

A teetotaler who pushes alcoholic beverages is a hypocrite.
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