Democratic New York Primary results thread (polls close at 9pm ET)

[afleitch]

So Sanders pretty much won only hipster neighbourhoods in New York City. Colour me STUNNED....

[Famous Mortimer]

Clinton narrowly beats Bernie in Williamsburg. This is to be expected since despite its reputation as the capitol of hipsterdom 10 years ago, it's now basically an off shoot of Manhattan.

Bernie does his best performance though, in Greenpoint, which has a reputation as the second most hipster neighborhood in Brooklyn. It's actually probably not as hipster-y as Bushwick but Bernie did better here because unlike Bushwick, there aren't many visible minorities. Most of the "natives" are Polish immigrants.

Bernie still won the hipster-y parts of Bushwick though, "East Williamsburg" and North Bushwick (although not South Bushwick which is basically Bed-Stuy and has more Black people).

He won Ridgewood, Queens, which is increasingly inhabited by hipsters priced out of Bushwick. He also won Middle Village, the neighborhood just north of Ridgewood which is a mix of hipsters and White ethnics.

In the parts of Queens right across from Manhattan, he won Astoria but lost Long Island City, both of which are pretty hipster-y.

That's all the hipster-y areas covered. But Bernie won some White trashy White ethnics as well. He won Rockaway Park which is all greasy Guidos. He won Brighton Beach which is mostly Russian. He won Bay Ridge which is mostly super rich White people who consider themselves middle class because the neighborhood looks like mid west suburb. He won Bensonhurst which is White ethnics and increasingly Asians.

Lastly, on Staten Island, he won the entire southern shore of the island as well as a centrally located neighborhood called Westerleigh. I actually have no idea about the demographic make up of these neighborhoods. Most New Yorkers when I ask them about neighborhoods in Staten Island say they just assumed it was all one big neighborhood.

[HAnnA MArin County]

Clinton narrowly beats Bernie in Williamsburg. This is to be expected since despite its reputation as the capitol of hipsterdom 10 years ago, it's now basically an off shoot of Manhattan.

Bernie does his best performance though, in Greenpoint, which has a reputation as the second most hipster neighborhood in Brooklyn. It's actually probably not as hipster-y as Bushwick but Bernie did better here because unlike Bushwick, there aren't many visible minorities. Most of the "natives" are Polish immigrants.

Bernie still won the hipster-y parts of Bushwick though, "East Williamsburg" and North Bushwick (although not South Bushwick which is basically Bed-Stuy and has more Black people).

He won Ridgewood, Queens, which is increasingly inhabited by hipsters priced out of Bushwick. He also won Middle Village, the neighborhood just north of Ridgewood which is a mix of hipsters and White ethnics.

In the parts of Queens right across from Manhattan, he won Astoria but lost Long Island City, both of which are pretty hipster-y.

That's all the hipster-y areas covered. But Bernie won some White trashy White ethnics as well. He won Rockaway Park which is all greasy Guidos. He won Brighton Beach which is mostly Russian. He won Bay Ridge which is mostly super rich White people who consider themselves middle class because the neighborhood looks like mid west suburb. He won Bensonhurst which is White ethnics and increasingly Asians.

Lastly, on Staten Island, he won the entire southern shore of the island as well as a centrally located neighborhood called Westerleigh. I actually have no idea about the demographic make up of these neighborhoods. Most New Yorkers when I ask them about neighborhoods in Staten Island say they just assumed it was all one big neighborhood.

Wonderful analysis of the hipster neighborhoods I'd love to read more of your analyses from other neighborhoods in the city.

So Bernie continues to do well in white hippie areas, but bombs everywhere else with minorities. why am I not surprised? Sounds like his revolution only involves these white people and college kiddies. That's not a coalition that's representative of the party or the country, FTM.

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So Sanders pretty much won only hipster neighbourhoods in New York City. Colour me STUNNED....

Does Staten Island have hipster neighborhoods?

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Clinton narrowly beats Bernie in Williamsburg. This is to be expected since despite its reputation as the capitol of hipsterdom 10 years ago, it's now basically an off shoot of Manhattan.

Bernie does his best performance though, in Greenpoint, which has a reputation as the second most hipster neighborhood in Brooklyn. It's actually probably not as hipster-y as Bushwick but Bernie did better here because unlike Bushwick, there aren't many visible minorities. Most of the "natives" are Polish immigrants.

Bernie still won the hipster-y parts of Bushwick though, "East Williamsburg" and North Bushwick (although not South Bushwick which is basically Bed-Stuy and has more Black people).

He won Ridgewood, Queens, which is increasingly inhabited by hipsters priced out of Bushwick. He also won Middle Village, the neighborhood just north of Ridgewood which is a mix of hipsters and White ethnics.

In the parts of Queens right across from Manhattan, he won Astoria but lost Long Island City, both of which are pretty hipster-y.

That's all the hipster-y areas covered. But Bernie won some White trashy White ethnics as well. He won Rockaway Park which is all greasy Guidos. He won Brighton Beach which is mostly Russian. He won Bay Ridge which is mostly super rich White people who consider themselves middle class because the neighborhood looks like mid west suburb. He won Bensonhurst which is White ethnics and increasingly Asians.

Lastly, on Staten Island, he won the entire southern shore of the island as well as a centrally located neighborhood called Westerleigh. I actually have no idea about the demographic make up of these neighborhoods. Most New Yorkers when I ask them about neighborhoods in Staten Island say they just assumed it was all one big neighborhood.

Wonderful analysis of the hipster neighborhoods I'd love to read more of your analyses from other neighborhoods in the city.

So Bernie continues to do well in white hippie areas, but bombs everywhere else with minorities. why am I not surprised? Sounds like his revolution only involves these white people and college kiddies. That's not a coalition that's representative of the party or the country, FTM.

But you need that coalition to vote for your candidate so alienating them would be disastrous.

[YaBoyNY]

Clinton narrowly beats Bernie in Williamsburg. This is to be expected since despite its reputation as the capitol of hipsterdom 10 years ago, it's now basically an off shoot of Manhattan.

Bernie does his best performance though, in Greenpoint, which has a reputation as the second most hipster neighborhood in Brooklyn. It's actually probably not as hipster-y as Bushwick but Bernie did better here because unlike Bushwick, there aren't many visible minorities. Most of the "natives" are Polish immigrants.

Bernie still won the hipster-y parts of Bushwick though, "East Williamsburg" and North Bushwick (although not South Bushwick which is basically Bed-Stuy and has more Black people).

He won Ridgewood, Queens, which is increasingly inhabited by hipsters priced out of Bushwick. He also won Middle Village, the neighborhood just north of Ridgewood which is a mix of hipsters and White ethnics.

In the parts of Queens right across from Manhattan, he won Astoria but lost Long Island City, both of which are pretty hipster-y.

That's all the hipster-y areas covered. But Bernie won some White trashy White ethnics as well. He won Rockaway Park which is all greasy Guidos. He won Brighton Beach which is mostly Russian. He won Bay Ridge which is mostly super rich White people who consider themselves middle class because the neighborhood looks like mid west suburb. He won Bensonhurst which is White ethnics and increasingly Asians.

Lastly, on Staten Island, he won the entire southern shore of the island as well as a centrally located neighborhood called Westerleigh. I actually have no idea about the demographic make up of these neighborhoods. Most New Yorkers when I ask them about neighborhoods in Staten Island say they just assumed it was all one big neighborhood.

Wonderful analysis of the hipster neighborhoods I'd love to read more of your analyses from other neighborhoods in the city.

So Bernie continues to do well in white hippie areas, but bombs everywhere else with minorities. why am I not surprised? Sounds like his revolution only involves these white people and college kiddies. That's not a coalition that's representative of the party or the country, FTM.

But you need that coalition to vote for your candidate so alienating them would be disastrous.

And Hillary will have no problem getting them to vote for her in November.

[Famous Mortimer]

Wonderful analysis of the hipster neighborhoods I'd love to read more of your analyses from other neighborhoods in the city.

Well I did Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island. All that's left is The Bronx and Manhattan. I'll try to find something to say besides "it was a slaughter".

In Manhattan, Bernie didn't get murdered quite so hard in the southern tip of the island. That includes the East Village (which he almost won) and the Lower East Side. These areas were the Bushwick of 30 and 20 years ago so the few aging hipsters still clinging to their rent controlled apartments probably enabled Bernie to keep his head above water.

He also did relatively well on the northern tip of the Manhattan, where there are still some non-billionaire White people. Obviously he also did well in Morningside Heights, the area around Columbia University.

Hillary cleaned up in the middle of the island though (70%+). She of course won the Upper West Side and the Upper East side where all the old rich people live with their views of Central Park. She also won Midtown, where apparently some people actually live.

Weirdly Clinton barely broke 60% in Harlem. This is either a result of gentrification, African Americans in Harlem being more socially conscious, or some combination of both.

In The Bronx, Bernie came in 10 point of winning Throggs Neck, a large sparsely populated majority White neighborhood made of rich old people. He also did well in some of the extreme Northern areas of The Bronx which still have a significant White population. Everywhere else, Alabama.

[Sorenroy]

The NYT just published precinct level maps for all of NYC with a few toggles. It's very cool. Check it out here:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/19/us/elections/new-york-city-democratic-primary-results.html?_r=0#10/40.7103/-73.9977

[Hnv1]

So basically as I see it the democratic primary vote is divided into 3 main groups: establishment voters; minorities; progressive voters (who swallow the indie vote). Obama 08 had minorities and progressive voters, Clinton 16 has minorities and establishment. To win the race you need 2 of the 3

[Hydera]

Another pattern im finding is that Italian Americans regardless of income, dislike Hillary.

Maybe this is just an effect from living near so many other italians registered as republicans who massively suppprt trump so to italian americans registered as democrats might of voted for Bernie because of influence from those republicans.

[Holmes]

So basically as I see it the democratic primary vote is divided into 3 main groups: establishment voters; minorities; progressive voters (who swallow the indie vote). Obama 08 had minorities and progressive voters, Clinton 16 has minorities and establishment. To win the race you need 2 of the 3

There is also an n anti-establishment group that is conservstive, but votes against the Democrats rather than for a candidate's policies. Think Oklahoma, or how Sanders more often than not wins the "wants less conservative policies than Obama" vote in the exit polls. They voted against Obama in the 2008 primary for... let's say racial reasons, but now that Clinton represents Obama, and Sanders has consistently put down Obama they vote for Sanders.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Another pattern im finding is that Italian Americans regardless of income, dislike Hillary.

FFs!

[Ronnie]

Has the North Korean government's twitter feed always been this hilarious?

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https://mobile.twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/722629531580964864

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https://mobile.twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/722610543677304832

[Sorenroy]

Has the North Korean government's twitter feed always been this hilarious?

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https://mobile.twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/722629531580964864

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https://mobile.twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/722610543677304832

I'm 99% positive that it's a mock account. Anyone know for sure?

[beaver2.0]

Has the North Korean government's twitter feed always been this hilarious?

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https://mobile.twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/722629531580964864

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https://mobile.twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/722610543677304832

Kim Jong-Un might have a better chance than Clinton as the Democratic nominee.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

It's funny that despite the % differfence being similar to 2008 (57-40 v. 58-41; a mere 1 point difference), the county map look very, very diffrent






Also, according to Dave's result page for NY primary, Hillary got exactly the same number of pledged delegates as eight years ago (139).

[Crumpets]

Here's the swing map 2008-2016 using standard Atlas shading. Apparently the people of Westchester County only just realized that she (kind of) lives there.

[Xing]

NYC must be the Bernieorbust folks' least favorite place now.

[DINGO Joe]

Despite all the hullabaloo about the voter "purge" in Brooklyn, it was actually the only borough that had an increase in total votes in the primary vs 2008

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Despite all the hullabaloo about the voter "purge" in Brooklyn, it was actually the only borough that had an increase in total votes in the primary vs 2008

Tompkins had a significant increase.

[DINGO Joe]

Despite all the hullabaloo about the voter "purge" in Brooklyn, it was actually the only borough that had an increase in total votes in the primary vs 2008

Tompkins had a significant increase.

Actually not a borough

[IceSpear]

Man, that swing map is seriously great. It's everything I thought it would be. It looks like what you'd expect if she dropped 15 points, not 1 point.

Westchester is easy to explain. It has a substantial amount of blacks and limousine liberals. Both of those groups went from heavy Obama to heavy Hillary. If it wasn't for it being her home state/home county in 08 she may have lost it.

[Gass3268]

Man, that swing map is seriously great. It's everything I thought it would be. It looks like what you'd expect if she dropped 15 points, not 1 point.

Westchester is easy to explain. It has a substantial amount of blacks and limousine liberals. Both of those groups went from heavy Obama to heavy Hillary. If it wasn't for it being her home state/home county in 08 she may have lost it.

The differences in collations between 08 and 16 are fascinating and they really play out when mapped.

[Eraserhead]

It's funny that despite the % differfence being similar to 2008 (57-40 v. 58-41; a mere 1 point difference), the county map look very, very diffrent

Bernie is at 42 FTR.

[Eraserhead]

Here's the swing map 2008-2016 using standard Atlas shading. Apparently the people of Westchester County only just realized that she (kind of) lives there.

Nah, it's probably just that Sanders was an awful fit for that particular county while Obama was a pretty good one.