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« on: April 19, 2016, 11:43:12 PM »

The Texas secession debate is getting kind of real



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April 19 at 2:26 PM


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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2016, 01:24:46 AM »
« Edited: April 20, 2016, 01:27:51 AM by Blue3 »

I wonder what the effect would be, on both Texas and the rest of the USA, if they were allowed to peacefully secede.
(I'd feel bad for the liberals in the state, especially in cities like Austin and Dallas that seem very liberal.)

A lot of it would probably depend on if...
-Texas kept the dollar
-had free trade with the USA
-and had a military alliance with the USA

If the answer to all 3 of the above is yes, both would still be able to prosper, I think. The USA's GDP would shrink but if the 3 above are true then it wouldn't make much of a difference. A noticeable minority in the US military would leave, but it wouldn't be the end of the military.

On the political side, the United States would also lose 2 conservative Senators, a bunch of conservatives in the House, and a bunch of potential conservative presidents (and who knows if other states would like to join Texas or not). Big Oil would also lose a little of their influence.

If the answer to all 3 of the above is no, then the USA will be hurting but it would be manageable, and Texas would do very poorly compared to being in the USA.
* Texas would then need to build up and afford its own military, try to be on standing with the USA, which isn't cheap. Without free flow of goods with the 49 states, and no Pacific port, goods and costs of living would go up. With a likely more conservative government there would probably be less help to those in need, and a lower minimum wage too if any. Texas would basically become a petro-state and arms dealer [+ ranchers and some technological products, though they might move in case of secession), in terms of what it would actually export to the world. Unknown how Independent Texas would treat immigrants, from either Mexico or the 49.  
* And back in the 49 states, the price of oil would rise and there would be less trade with Mexico, NASA will have moved. Probably a lot of aerospace/computer/biomedical companies would move out of Texas to stay in the privileged USA market, but there would be some that don't, and some prices would go up in the USA but not many or by much (besides the price of gas). Unknown how it would affect immigration to the United States. And hopefully there would be no cold war or armed border with independent Texas.

Overall, I'd see a reunification effort being pretty strong from the beginning, and probably strong enough to rejoin the United States within 30 years (due to both patriotism as well as to reverse the worse economic conditions).
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2016, 11:22:52 AM »

lol what. No one cares about secession anymore, at least in places where people actually live. Ten counties doesn't mean anything.
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2016, 11:24:11 AM »

Secession would be terrible for Texas' economy.  It is a pretty bad idea.

I wonder what the Federal Government would do if they seceded?  Would it be forced back in, or let to go?
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2016, 11:27:32 AM »

Try walking into any bar in rural Texas, say any variant of "America is not a great country", and see what happens. Texas independence is just the pipe dream of a handful of lunatics, nothing more. The outside media likes to give undue attention to them because "LOL crazy Texans", it's a real disservice honestly.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2016, 01:54:03 PM »

Would this mean a wall would have to be built on the Texan border?
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2016, 02:08:17 PM »

This will never happen. For one thing, it's a pipe dream of radicals opposed by the vast majority of citizens, and second, if it was about to happen it would be put down by a military lightning strike before they took control of a huge chunk of the country's resources and defenses.
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