Treasury Sec. to announce Harriet Tubman will replace Jackson on the $20 bill
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« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2016, 12:34:08 PM »

Hamilton was indefinitely horrible and worse than Jackson, and he wasn't even president, Jackson had much a larger impact then Hamilton, with Jacksonian Democracy and all that.

Opposing democracy > genocide.
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« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2016, 03:42:00 PM »

Looks like Native Americans can proudly use 20's now. Kind of disappointing Hamilton won't be replaced.
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« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2016, 05:35:56 PM »

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/trump-20-harriet-tubman-222256

Trump is opposed to removing Jackson from the $20. God bless him. Trump is slowly but surely winning me back.
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« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2016, 06:58:14 PM »

So... I have 14 years to write a musical that will save Jackson from the axe. Who wants to help me write it?

I've been in several musicals. I'm not a fan of Jackson personally, but I'm willing to help.

Can I play Jackson when he beats the assassin?
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« Reply #54 on: April 21, 2016, 07:01:30 PM »

So... I have 14 years to write a musical that will save Jackson from the axe. Who wants to help me write it?

I've been in several musicals. I'm not a fan of Jackson personally, but I'm willing to help.

Can I play Jackson when he beats the assassin?

No, we need to make it look realistic.
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« Reply #55 on: April 22, 2016, 05:55:16 AM »

Hamilton was indefinitely horrible and worse than Jackson, and he wasn't even president, Jackson had much a larger impact then Hamilton, with Jacksonian Democracy and all that.

Really, a guy who wanted a strong central government is worse than a war criminal and slave-owner that brought about the Trail of Tears?

He wanted a strong central government to protect the elite of society. He opposed the french revolution, and opposed ideas given from it, such as liberty and equality. He opposed expanding suffrage, opposed Catholics having place in America, and essential wanted another dictatorial regime in America, controlled by the elite. Alexander Hamilton was no abolitionist either, and was fine with slavery under the system. I'm sure he opposed democracy, and thought that normal people participating in politics, would be disastrous. The trail of tears is horrible, but it does not negate what Jackson did.

A point that is often forgotten by lefties who embrace him, but I won't complain since it kept him on the $10.

Any sane person should have opposed the French Revolution at least by 1792/1793. Its end result was a dictator and then a return a very powerful Monarchy, then another dictator.

I much prefer the Glorious Revolution, primarily because it was neither Glorious nor a Revolution. Its impact was meaningful in that it established representative gov't on a solid footing and forever ended any chance of Britain back peddling to absolutism. It was also quick and rather bloodless. Of course the Monarchy was preserved and very little was changed so it wouldn't please a radical who prefers to bath the streets in blood for years until people are fed up and latch onto the strong man on a horse who rides in promising stability at expense of any hope of liberty. Some Revolution!

Popular Democracy can be very tyrannical if taken to excess. Jackson did preside over an era where democracy was expanded to include more voters, but he violated the constitution and ignored the Supreme Court to facilitate a death march. He also crippled bank mostly out of stubborness, leaving the country woefully weakened economically once cotton prices collapsed.
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« Reply #56 on: April 22, 2016, 09:49:40 AM »

Also, it's debatable whether "All votes must be white men" is really much of an improvement over "All voters must be property owners (even when they're blacks or women)".
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« Reply #57 on: April 22, 2016, 10:10:55 AM »

Also, it's debatable whether "All votes must be white men" is really much of an improvement over "All voters must be property owners (even when they're blacks or women)".
What?

So do you think we should have property requirements for voting.
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« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2016, 10:30:54 AM »

Also, it's debatable whether "All votes must be white men" is really much of an improvement over "All voters must be property owners (even when they're blacks or women)".
What?

So do you think we should have property requirements for voting.

Do you think that only white men should be allowed to vote?
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« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2016, 10:33:31 AM »

There's really no good reason for the change.
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« Reply #60 on: April 22, 2016, 10:33:54 AM »

Also, it's debatable whether "All votes must be white men" is really much of an improvement over "All voters must be property owners (even when they're blacks or women)".
What?

So do you think we should have property requirements for voting.

Do you think that only white men should be allowed to vote?
Nobody said that.
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« Reply #61 on: April 22, 2016, 10:38:00 AM »

Also, it's debatable whether "All votes must be white men" is really much of an improvement over "All voters must be property owners (even when they're blacks or women)".
What?

So do you think we should have property requirements for voting.

Do you think that only white men should be allowed to vote?
I am in favor of every citizen being allowed to vote.
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« Reply #62 on: April 22, 2016, 10:38:36 AM »

I'm relatively happy with this. Although I would prefer they keep Jackson, I do understand the reasoning behind taking him off. I would've preferred taking Grant off the fifty.
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« Reply #63 on: April 22, 2016, 10:50:04 AM »

Also, it's debatable whether "All votes must be white men" is really much of an improvement over "All voters must be property owners (even when they're blacks or women)".
What?

So do you think we should have property requirements for voting.

Do you think that only white men should be allowed to vote?
I am in favor of every citizen being allowed to vote.

As am I.
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« Reply #64 on: April 22, 2016, 01:11:12 PM »

So the paper money will now have:

3 Republicans (Lincoln, Grant, and Tubman)
3 Federalists (Washington, Franklin, and Hamilton)
1 Democratic-Republican (Jefferson, on the seldom-used but still circulating $2)

0 Whigs
0 Democrats
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« Reply #65 on: April 22, 2016, 01:18:54 PM »

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/trump-20-harriet-tubman-222256

Trump is opposed to removing Jackson from the $20. God bless him. Trump is slowly but surely winning me back.

Word is that Jackson is now moving to the back of the currency. Maybe there will be a Battle of New Orleans scene or something.
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« Reply #66 on: April 22, 2016, 02:13:12 PM »

I still support the idea of putting Reagan on the $50!
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« Reply #67 on: April 22, 2016, 03:45:25 PM »

So the paper money will now have:

3 Republicans (Lincoln, Grant, and Tubman)
3 Federalists (Washington, Franklin, and Hamilton)
1 Democratic-Republican (Jefferson, on the seldom-used but still circulating $2)

0 Whigs
0 Democrats

On what basis are you counting Franklin as a Federalist? He barely was active at the Convention and that was his last public hurrah. It makes about as much sense to count James Madison as a Federalist if you're basing it on Benjamin's support for the Constitution.
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« Reply #68 on: April 22, 2016, 03:56:52 PM »

Nah, Henry Clay belongs on the $50 since the back has the Capitol Building on it. Maybe if we had a denomination that had an airport on the reverse we could put Reagan on the front.
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« Reply #69 on: April 24, 2016, 11:09:02 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-can-celebrate-harriet-tubman-without-disparaging-andrew-jackson/2016/04/24/2f766160-0894-11e6-a12f-ea5aed7958dc_story.html

Jim Webb is now officially one of my all-time political heroes.
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« Reply #70 on: April 24, 2016, 11:22:59 PM »

Mega supportive of this. Tubman is a better person, and for a country populated by more than white men, it made no sense to have only white men on our money. Not that it actually changes much, of course, but it's not like this will cost a trillion dollars or whatever. A minor yet positive alteration.
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« Reply #71 on: April 25, 2016, 07:20:30 AM »

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« Reply #72 on: April 25, 2016, 07:58:38 AM »


FF!
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« Reply #73 on: April 25, 2016, 08:14:42 AM »

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« Reply #74 on: April 25, 2016, 10:34:58 AM »

He wasn't beforehand?
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