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« on: April 21, 2016, 01:12:18 PM »
Is Cruz on the decline? The voterless wins in Wyoming and CO. Coming in dead last in NY. Mathematically eliminated. How do you see his campaign going forward?
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2016, 01:16:34 PM »
Maybe, but his big losses in New York and the five upcoming north eastern states can be more attributed to demographics than "momentum" (or lack thereof). Indiana will be a bigger indication of any decline.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2016, 01:16:39 PM »
The next real test for him will be Indiana. The 'Stop Trump' movement will be back, running anti-Trump ads and Cruz is a good fit for the state. But will he being 'mathematically eliminated' relegate him in voters minds? I don't see Cruz voters switching to Trump, but will they stay home? How motivating is it to vote for a contested convention?
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2016, 01:16:55 PM »
I knew people would be saying Trump was finished earlier this month, and then decide that he's actually a lock once the NE states started voting. The second half of April was always going to be terrible for Cruz, but he'll probably bounce back in May. The only state in May he'll probably lose is WV.
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2016, 01:17:42 PM »
Quote from: Likely Voter on April 21, 2016, 01:16:39 PM
The next real test for him will be Indiana. The 'Stop Trump' movement will be back, running anti-Trump ads and Cruz is a good fit for the state. But will he being 'mathematically eliminated' relegate him in voters minds? I don't see Cruz voters switching to Trump, but will they stay home? How motivating is it to vote for a contested convention?

How is Indiana a good fit when he lost illinois and ohio?
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2016, 01:19:01 PM »
Quote from: jman123 on April 21, 2016, 01:17:42 PM
Quote from: Likely Voter on April 21, 2016, 01:16:39 PM
The next real test for him will be Indiana. The 'Stop Trump' movement will be back, running anti-Trump ads and Cruz is a good fit for the state. But will he being 'mathematically eliminated' relegate him in voters minds? I don't see Cruz voters switching to Trump, but will they stay home? How motivating is it to vote for a contested convention?

How is Indiana a good fit when he lost illinois and ohio?

Indiana doesn't have a Chicago esque city within its borders and it is nobody's home state either.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2016, 01:20:28 PM »
Quote from: jman123 on April 21, 2016, 01:17:42 PM
Quote from: Likely Voter on April 21, 2016, 01:16:39 PM
The next real test for him will be Indiana. The 'Stop Trump' movement will be back, running anti-Trump ads and Cruz is a good fit for the state. But will he being 'mathematically eliminated' relegate him in voters minds? I don't see Cruz voters switching to Trump, but will they stay home? How motivating is it to vote for a contested convention?

How is Indiana a good fit when he lost illinois and ohio?
Bigger Bible Belt, a lot of voters are similar to Wisconsin conservatives and they have a larger tea party movement with Richard Mourdock.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2016, 01:20:38 PM »
He shall rise again.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2016, 01:38:19 PM »
Don't people who identify with the Tea Party back Trump more often than not? It's a little annoying because Indiana hasn't seen a competitive GOP presidential primary in quite a long while. We might be surprised on the night of the 3rd... or not.
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2016, 01:48:44 PM »
I don't think so.  I don't think anybody expected him to do well in the Northeast.  If he ends up getting lower numbers in upcoming contests it is because of the state, not Cruz.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2016, 01:52:22 PM »
One can only hope! #NeverCruz
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2016, 02:06:53 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2016, 02:10:49 PM »
Cruz is an awful fit for the Northeast and only made it harder on himself with his comments re: NY Values.

He has a shot in Indiana though.
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2016, 02:16:26 PM »
Quote from: (CT) The Free North on April 21, 2016, 02:10:49 PM
Cruz is an awful fit for the Northeast and only made it harder on himself with his comments re: NY Values.

He has a shot in Indiana though.

If Trump does as well with delegates next week as he did in New York this week and if the current %'s hold in California, I don't think Indiana is going to matter much as long as he's able to pick off a 6-9 delegates.
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2016, 02:23:12 PM »
Cruz is roughly as on-the-decline right now as trump was after Wisconsin. I might even say less so.
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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2016, 05:49:11 PM »
Quote from: Classic Conservative on April 21, 2016, 01:20:28 PM
Quote from: jman123 on April 21, 2016, 01:17:42 PM
Quote from: Likely Voter on April 21, 2016, 01:16:39 PM
The next real test for him will be Indiana. The 'Stop Trump' movement will be back, running anti-Trump ads and Cruz is a good fit for the state. But will he being 'mathematically eliminated' relegate him in voters minds? I don't see Cruz voters switching to Trump, but will they stay home? How motivating is it to vote for a contested convention?

How is Indiana a good fit when he lost illinois and ohio?
Bigger Bible Belt, a lot of voters are similar to Wisconsin conservatives and they have a larger tea party movement with Richard Mourdock.
And Cruz is stronger than he was when Illinois and Ohio voted on March 15.
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2016, 05:54:12 PM »
No. These are just bad states for him and amazing states for Trump. Talk to me after indiana.
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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2016, 07:16:05 PM »
Quote from: jman123 on April 21, 2016, 01:17:42 PM
Quote from: Likely Voter on April 21, 2016, 01:16:39 PM
The next real test for him will be Indiana. The 'Stop Trump' movement will be back, running anti-Trump ads and Cruz is a good fit for the state. But will he being 'mathematically eliminated' relegate him in voters minds? I don't see Cruz voters switching to Trump, but will they stay home? How motivating is it to vote for a contested convention?

How is Indiana a good fit when he lost illinois and ohio?

He lost Ohio for obvious reasons (Kasich), but Indiana is more Conservative than Illinois, and he darn near would have won Illinois if Rubio had been out already.
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« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2016, 07:17:11 PM »
Quote from: Likely Voter on April 21, 2016, 01:16:39 PM
will he being 'mathematically eliminated' relegate him in voters minds?

Yes. Voters like a winner.

Voting for someone who is guaranteed to lose is damaging to your soul.

I can see Trump and Hillary cleaning up now.

NY will have an effect.
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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2016, 07:17:52 PM »
The race isn't changing. Voters are very committed to their side in this election.
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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2016, 07:20:28 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2016, 07:45:47 PM »
Quote from: Barack Van Buren on April 21, 2016, 07:21:00 PM
After Cruz wins a primary:
"Trump is done boys, pack it up."

After Trump wins a primary:
"Cruz definitely is on the decline, it might be over."

After Clinton wins a primary:
"Bye bye Bernie Bros, night night."

After Sanders wins a primary:
"YEAH, THE REVOLUTION! Clinton is toast."


The 2016 board is trash.

Yep. So easily manipulated by fleeting momentum. As much I wish Cruz is on the serious decline, NY was the worst state he could of asked for, even without the NY values scandal.

If Cruz loses IN, which I hope he will, then we can talk about decline.
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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2016, 08:22:58 PM »
Quote from: bagelman on April 21, 2016, 07:45:47 PM
Quote from: Barack Van Buren on April 21, 2016, 07:21:00 PM
After Cruz wins a primary:
"Trump is done boys, pack it up."

After Trump wins a primary:
"Cruz definitely is on the decline, it might be over."

After Clinton wins a primary:
"Bye bye Bernie Bros, night night."

After Sanders wins a primary:
"YEAH, THE REVOLUTION! Clinton is toast."


The 2016 board is trash.

Yep. So easily manipulated by fleeting momentum. As much I wish Cruz is on the serious decline, NY was the worst state he could of asked for, even without the NY values scandal.

If Cruz loses IN, which I hope he will, then we can talk about decline.
It doesn't matter now.  Trump will be so close that he will win on the first ballot.  There is no rationale for a Cruz nomination at all. 
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