Kasich: People in DC shouldn't be allowed to vote because they're Democrats

[Figueira]

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But the Republican Party totally isn't racist!

[dax00]

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*facepalm*

[mencken]

Partisan balance has been a critical factor in statehood debates since at least 1820, going all the way up to the most recent admissions of Alaska and Hawaii.

[Santander]

I'm actually liking this version of Kasich.

[TomC]

is it sad I'm at least reassured he included the "ic" in Democratic?

[Torie]

It's rather pathetic he didn't come up with the idea of merging DC with Maryland. And lots of well, ah, maybe, hmm, well, OK, syntax which the man has made into a veritable art form.

[Thomas D]

I'd be happy to have DC be part of Maryland.

[dax00]

I'd be happy to have DC be part of Maryland.

The Democratic Party would lose 2 electoral college votes from its firewall.

[Thomas D]

I'd be happy to have DC be part of Maryland.

The Democratic Party would lose 2 electoral college votes from its firewall.

I'd be willing to make that sacrifice to get the people of DC a voting House member and 2 Senators. 

[Famous Mortimer]

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But the Republican Party totally isn't racist!

How does what Kasich said imply the Republican Party is racist?

[Landslide Lyndon]

One more reason why Kasich would be nowhere as strong a GE candidate as polls show.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

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But the Republican Party totally isn't racist!

How does what Kasich said imply the Republican Party is racist?

Because the left has a unique talent of making everything about race

[SteveRogers]

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But the Republican Party totally isn't racist!

How does what Kasich said imply the Republican Party is racist?

He was reflexively against letting an area with a large African American population have congressional representation for, admittedly, literally no reason other than he thinks said African American population will vote Democratic.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

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But the Republican Party totally isn't racist!

How does what Kasich said imply the Republican Party is racist?

He was reflexively against letting an area with a large African American population have congressional representation for, admittedly, literally no reason other than he thinks said African American population will vote Democratic.

No, rather because DC already votes 90%+ Democratic

[Virginiá]

I'd be happy to have DC be part of Maryland.

The Democratic Party would lose 2 electoral college votes from its firewall.

That depends how it is done. It could be merged with a simple bill returning the territory and reducing the district to just capitol hill/white house/etc. If it's done that way, the tiny district still gets its electoral votes because that is provided for in the Constitution. They would have to amend the Constitution to get rid of those EVs, and I doubt that would be possible right now.

Congress would then be able to assert power (as they could now) over those electoral votes. I'm sure there would be a fight over it, depending on who controls Congress at any given time. I could see them agreeing to just assign those votes to whoever wins the PV, even if it took a lot of arguing to get to that point.

I'd be happy to have DC be part of Maryland.

The Democratic Party would lose 2 electoral college votes from its firewall.

I'd be willing to make that sacrifice to get the people of DC a voting House member and 2 Senators.  

You misunderstand - Merging DC back with Maryland doesn't get them any more Senators, because it's not a new state. It might get them a new US House Representative, due to the population changes, but that's it. On a side note, the addition of DC to MD might allow Democrats in MD to effectively gerrymander MD's US House map to get all the state's seats by cracking DC up and diluting GOP districts with Democrats. So technically they would get maybe more than just 1 extra seat when all is said and done.

It's worth noting that the Maryland legislature would never allow this merger. It would completely change the state's power structure and help marginalize existing MD population centers and their respective politicians, since DC is quite large.

[SteveRogers]

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But the Republican Party totally isn't racist!

How does what Kasich said imply the Republican Party is racist?

He was reflexively against letting an area with a large African American population have congressional representation for, admittedly, literally no reason other than he thinks said African American population will vote Democratic.

No, rather because DC already votes 90%+ Democratic

And you think that's a satisfactory reason to deny those people representation?

[Famous Mortimer]

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But the Republican Party totally isn't racist!

How does what Kasich said imply the Republican Party is racist?

He was reflexively against letting an area with a large African American population have congressional representation for, admittedly, literally no reason other than he thinks said African American population will vote Democratic.

No, rather because DC already votes 90%+ Democratic

And you think that's a satisfactory reason to deny those people representation?

It's a stupid reason but it's not racist.

[DrScholl]

He sounds as dumb and extreme as the other two.

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I feel like Kasich's trying to get away from his 'moderate hero' reputation.

[sportydude]

I'd be happy to have DC be part of Maryland.

The Democratic Party would lose 2 electoral college votes from its firewall.

It would make more sense to unite Virginia and D.C.

[Virginiá]

It would make more sense to unite Virginia and D.C.

Virginia already got back the land it gave for DC over a century and a half ago. The land DC now occupies belonged to Maryland.

From a partisan perspective, I'd love for Virginia to absorb DC. Adding 650,000+ reliable Democratic voters to Virginia would turn that state solid blue at virtually every level and with that, cripple Republican presidential success for at least 2 or more cycles (until they permanently flip a blue state of equivalent size to make up for Virginia's loss)

[Famous Mortimer]

I feel like Kasich's trying to get away from his 'moderate hero' reputation.

He's been saying dumb crap for a week straight. Hoping to get that media ridicule which fuels Trump.

[MT Treasurer]

From a partisan perspective, I'd love for Virginia to absorb DC. Adding 650,000+ reliable Democratic voters to Virginia would turn that state solid blue at virtually every level and with that, cripple Republican presidential success for at least 2 or more cycles (until they permanently flip a blue state of equivalent size to make up for Virginia's loss)

Republicans can win without Virginia.

[Thomas D]

I'd be happy to have DC be part of Maryland.

The Democratic Party would lose 2 electoral college votes from its firewall.

That depends how it is done. It could be merged with a simple bill returning the territory and reducing the district to just capitol hill/white house/etc. If it's done that way, the tiny district still gets its electoral votes because that is provided for in the Constitution. They would have to amend the Constitution to get rid of those EVs, and I doubt that would be possible right now.

Congress would then be able to assert power (as they could now) over those electoral votes. I'm sure there would be a fight over it, depending on who controls Congress at any given time. I could see them agreeing to just assign those votes to whoever wins the PV, even if it took a lot of arguing to get to that point.

I'd be happy to have DC be part of Maryland.

The Democratic Party would lose 2 electoral college votes from its firewall.

I'd be willing to make that sacrifice to get the people of DC a voting House member and 2 Senators. 

You misunderstand - Merging DC back with Maryland doesn't get them any more Senators, because it's not a new state. It might get them a new US House Representative, due to the population changes, but that's it. On a side note, the addition of DC to MD might allow Democrats in MD to effectively gerrymander MD's US House map to get all the state's seats by cracking DC up and diluting GOP districts with Democrats. So technically they would get maybe more than just 1 extra seat when all is said and done.

It's worth noting that the Maryland legislature would never allow this merger. It would completely change the state's power structure and help marginalize existing MD population centers and their respective politicians, since DC is quite large.

I meant they'd get Maryland's Senators. 

[Virginiá]

From a partisan perspective, I'd love for Virginia to absorb DC. Adding 650,000+ reliable Democratic voters to Virginia would turn that state solid blue at virtually every level and with that, cripple Republican presidential success for at least 2 or more cycles (until they permanently flip a blue state of equivalent size to make up for Virginia's loss)

Republicans can win without Virginia.

Barely, and not under reliable circumstances. You have to give them states that, given the GOP's current state and image, would always start as the underdog in. Blue Wall/great lake states? Doubtful. New Mexico? No. Nevada? At this point due to Trump/NV's exploding Hispanic population? Doubtful. PA? They say it's going Republican every 4 years. Best not to plan around that.

Give GOP Colorado, Iowa, Ohio and Florida and they still come up short. Add to the fact that several GOP states that were once reliably red are now moving towards Democrats, even if somewhat slowly (AZ, NC, and GA down the line), and you get a problem where Republicans would need to run the table to win.

That's really not plausible based on what is going on with the party right now, hence why I said 2 cycles.