Harris Wofford's incredible (love) story

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wow yeah, that's amazing. Congrats to them.

[Antonio the Sixth]

In all seriousness it's kind of heartwarming that we're at the point where elderly gay men can now, too, marry creepily below the acceptable age range.

That was my reaction too. I think true LGBT equality is admitting that there's something kind of off about marrying someone who could be your grandchild, regardless of whether they are of the same or the opposite sex.

I'd argue that it i'ts a lot more concerning in heterosexual couples due to the inherent power imbalance between genders, but I know this kind of argument won't go over well here.

[Antonio the Sixth]

In all seriousness it's kind of heartwarming that we're at the point where elderly gay men can now, too, marry creepily below the acceptable age range.

That was my reaction too. I think true LGBT equality is admitting that there's something kind of off about marrying someone who could be your grandchild, regardless of whether they are of the same or the opposite sex.

I'd argue that it i'ts a lot more concerning in heterosexual couples due to the inherent power imbalance between genders, but I know this kind of argument won't go over well here.

TBF even in a hetero relationship between a 40 year old woman and a 90 year old man, there's definitely a power imbalance.  Just not the direction your post implied.

Well yeah, obviously there's that too. I'm just saying, gender inequality adds one layer of creepy.

[Antonio the Sixth]

In all seriousness it's kind of heartwarming that we're at the point where elderly gay men can now, too, marry creepily below the acceptable age range.

That was my reaction too. I think true LGBT equality is admitting that there's something kind of off about marrying someone who could be your grandchild, regardless of whether they are of the same or the opposite sex.

I'd argue that it i'ts a lot more concerning in heterosexual couples due to the inherent power imbalance between genders, but I know this kind of argument won't go over well here.

There goes antonio again with his straightsplaining.  Also, I call out your misogyny by claiming the gender imbalance is "inherent."

Considering how obsessed your are with my posts, I'm starting to think you have a crush on me.

[Antonio the Sixth]

In all seriousness it's kind of heartwarming that we're at the point where elderly gay men can now, too, marry creepily below the acceptable age range.

That was my reaction too. I think true LGBT equality is admitting that there's something kind of off about marrying someone who could be your grandchild, regardless of whether they are of the same or the opposite sex.

I'd argue that it i'ts a lot more concerning in heterosexual couples due to the inherent power imbalance between genders, but I know this kind of argument won't go over well here.

Yes, I think the historical prevalence of pederasty weakens this argument considerably.

A 40-year-old = a child?

[Antonio the Sixth]

In all seriousness it's kind of heartwarming that we're at the point where elderly gay men can now, too, marry creepily below the acceptable age range.

That was my reaction too. I think true LGBT equality is admitting that there's something kind of off about marrying someone who could be your grandchild, regardless of whether they are of the same or the opposite sex.

I'd argue that it i'ts a lot more concerning in heterosexual couples due to the inherent power imbalance between genders, but I know this kind of argument won't go over well here.

Yes, I think the historical prevalence of pederasty weakens this argument considerably.

A 40-year-old = a child?

I meant that the history of pederasty in patriarchal societies shows that homosexual relationships aren't necessarily more egalitarian.

Well, age is obviously another element that introduces inequality. That doesn't change my point.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ugh what a half plus seven violating creep.

You do realise that 'rule' isn't actually the law?

Uh, who cares? It's legal for me to f[inks] 16-year olds in Minnesota but that doesn't make it OK.

What? You mean the age of consent in Minnesota is 16?

Oh my God.

I honestly don't understand what's so shocking about the age of consent being 16.

I think the whole thing about 18 being the age of consent is a product of most movies and shows being shot in California, which is one of the few States where it is.

The idea that it's somehow wrong or creepy for a 18 year old to have sex with a 17 year old is certainly pretty strange.

[Antonio the Sixth]

So Tony, you have no problem with cougars then?

It's still pretty awful, just not as awful.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wait that doesn't make any sense.

Much older man and young woman = creepy and awful

Much older woman and young man = creepy and less awful but still awful

Same huge age gap if both are the same gender = OK

I'm not saying either is OK. What's your point with all this anyway?