Does Lyin' Ted regret stealing Colorado now?
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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2016, 01:09:49 AM »

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You laugh now, but after seeing the Hilldozer after it's through with Trump? Cheesy

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« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2016, 01:10:53 AM »

I would also like an answer as to why Cruz's victory in Colorado constituted "stealing" it.
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« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2016, 01:16:40 AM »

Because Trump lost! That's why. That's why he's *still* whining over it.
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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2016, 01:17:53 AM »

Yet another illustration why the media is to blame for this primary.  They're all liberals who want the destruction of the Reagan Coalition, so they used their power over people to push this likely Democratic double-agent to kill the conservative movement.

You're overthinking this, my friend. All they want is ratings. Normally, a close election provides ratings, so they do whatever they can to make an election close, which involves always rooting for the underdog whatever their ideological stripes are. Trump, however, scrambled the calculus by ensuring that ratings are high so long as he is present, whether the race is close or not. Thus, the media backs Trump.
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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2016, 01:20:50 AM »

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The media backs Trump, because as I put it, no Republican candidate has ever won the nomination without New York.

Let's face it who are the media going to be behind? The double New Yorker ticket of Trump vs Hillary? That's their dream ticket.

And do you think they really want Hillary to lose? Let's get real here. They want her coronation and Trumps gonna hand it to her on a platter.
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« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2016, 01:31:31 AM »

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The media backs Trump, because as I put it, no Republican candidate has ever won the nomination without New York.

Let's face it who are the media going to be behind? The double New Yorker ticket of Trump vs Hillary? That's their dream ticket.

And do you think they really want Hillary to lose? Let's get real here. They want her coronation and Trumps gonna hand it to her on a platter.

No way. They might hold their noses and back Hillary over Trump or Cruz, but they would've coronated Rubio for sure.
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« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2016, 01:32:26 AM »

And do you think they really want Hillary to lose? Let's get real here. They want her coronation and Trumps gonna hand it to her on a platter.

Oh, of course. They don't need Trump to be winning or losing for the ratings. They just need him to exist. Having backed him in the primaries, he'll continue to exist until November. Though the point is sort of moot because after the primary campaign he waged I doubt Trump could win even if the media was actually, honestly fully behind him. Hillary might as well already be President.

The question is how many Romney/McCaskill voters there are; or, Hillary/R for Congress. The House is probably safe, both because of the gerrymander and because of how many winnable races Democrats have failed to recruit warm bodies for, but the Senate is probably lost without a lot of luck. McGinty and not Sestak getting nominated tonight was a break.
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« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2016, 02:00:56 AM »

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Best case scenario I have for Trump gets him to 253. Virginia is now completely lost to Trump, as is Colorado, Iowa and Pennsylvania.

Trump is very close to having Ohio be safe Democrat.
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« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2016, 02:06:39 AM »

Romney/McCaskill and Hillary/R for Congress voters will probably be very similar. Predominantly female, suburban, middle aged, middle class. They will lead Hillary to a comfortable victory, like McCaskill, and still mostly vote Republican downticket.
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« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2016, 02:14:52 AM »

Romney/McCaskill and Hillary/R for Congress voters will probably be very similar. Predominantly female, suburban, middle aged, middle class. They will lead Hillary to a comfortable victory, like McCaskill, and still mostly vote Republican downticket.

It's a very useful analogy to make. The problem is in their numbers -- Romney was successfully able to motivate lots of people to come out and vote for him, even if it was ultimately not enough. Can Republican Senators do the same?

One of the things that is forgotten, because it will be near-meaningless in the presidential race, is how low Hillary's own favorabilities are. The presidential race will be a referendum on Trump (proceeding in the assumption that even he is incapable of ing up the nomination at this point). Congressional races don't have to be a referendum on Trump -- a skillful campaign can make it a referendum about Hillary. This is probably the best bet for keeping the Senate.
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« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2016, 02:22:21 AM »

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Nah. It's happened before with an unpopular nominee - see what McGovern did in South Dakota. He ran to the right. Senators need to run to the right to keep their seats and ignore Trump. If pressed, say that you're running on your record not Trump's.
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« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2016, 12:24:43 AM »

I bet he does now.
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« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2016, 12:26:12 AM »

Yes, I'm really starting to think that his theft of Colorado was a turning point.
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« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2016, 12:27:19 AM »

*rolleyes*

Was Wisconsin a theft?
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« Reply #39 on: May 04, 2016, 12:33:16 AM »

Colorado wasn't a theft, the rules of that state call for a state convention. However, TRUMP's rigged system argument really worked.
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« Reply #40 on: May 04, 2016, 12:35:21 AM »

Lyin' Ted's underhanded tactic to get Carson voters by claiming that he had dropped out started his slide. Cruz came off as morally and ethically repugnant and the aura stuck. Stealing Colorado and other conventions only reinforced the negative image and fed into Trump's narrative.
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« Reply #41 on: May 04, 2016, 01:24:12 AM »

I'm still waiting for an answer on how or why Colorado was a steal.
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« Reply #42 on: May 04, 2016, 01:26:40 AM »

You want truth from the Branch Trumpidians?
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« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2016, 01:42:32 AM »

He won those fair and square. No need for regret.
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« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2016, 01:46:57 AM »

If he wins the libertarian nomination, he's got my vote.
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