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Question: Is it to possible to be nationalist toward a group that one is not born into?
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« on: April 26, 2016, 12:01:05 AM »

I'm referring to someone here or AAD who once claimed that I was the most nationalist poster on the forum because of my dedication to my scene and belief in its culture being superior to all others. But of course no one is born "scene", it's a completely chosen identity.
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2016, 12:02:35 AM »

No idea what the answer is, but I'd say you're a cultist.
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2016, 12:43:24 AM »

yes
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2016, 03:43:58 AM »

Yes, also you're not nationalist about your hobbies (as it's not your nation), you just have a unhealthy obsession toward them.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2016, 09:07:22 AM »

Have you never heard of 'immigrant patriotism'?
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2016, 09:08:48 AM »

No idea what the answer is, but I'd say you're a cultist.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2016, 11:08:42 AM »


That's not exactly the same thing as "scene nationalism"...if such a thing can exist.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2016, 01:17:33 PM »

I mean, you're obviously not a nationalist because "scene" is nota nation by any stretch of imagination, but as for the poll question, yes, of course.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2016, 02:37:18 PM »


That's not exactly the same thing as "scene nationalism"...if such a thing can exist.

I'm answering the question you asked.
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2016, 03:21:59 PM »

Like people that accept Jesus into their hearts as adults, they seem to be the most active and "into it".  You've never met an immigrant that LOVED America?  Like way more than most Americans that love America?  I've met quite a few.  Sure some of it may be like Apu in that episode where he was going to get deported.  "The NY Mets are my favorite squadron!"  But a lot of it is genuine.
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2016, 03:42:34 PM »

Ted Cruz and his dad seem to like it here.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2016, 06:28:01 PM »


That's not exactly the same thing as "scene nationalism"...if such a thing can exist.

I'm answering the question you asked.

I worded it kind of oddly I guess (blame the character limit), I was asking more if connection to "chosen groups" is itself a form of nationalism as at least one person seems to think.

I mean yeah I do consider myself much closer to the other people in my scene than people of a similar ethnic background or who happened to be born in the same country, but I don't see that as nationalism.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2016, 06:29:48 PM »

What on God's green Earth is a "scene"?
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2016, 06:53:41 PM »

What on God's green Earth is a "scene"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGSnzYLidbA
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2016, 07:04:14 PM »

What on God's green Earth is a "scene"?

You shouldn't have asked that question.
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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2016, 07:08:21 PM »


why
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« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2016, 11:35:20 PM »

Yes. The community I come from in New York City is a fantastic example of the phenomenon, by the way. It is overwhelmingly Soviet-born and overwhelmingly American-nationalist.
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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2016, 07:35:22 AM »

Rule, Britannia! Britannia rule the waves! Britons never ever ever shall be slaves!
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2016, 07:36:39 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2016, 11:14:17 AM »

Is this just an excuse to brag about your involvement in the "scene" again, BRTD?
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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2016, 03:01:43 PM »

My American husband is a Scottish nationalist.
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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2016, 03:03:14 PM »

Absolutely. Look at how gung-ho Catherine the Great became for Russia despite being ethnically German.
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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2016, 07:47:51 PM »

I'm a Zionist so yes
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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2016, 08:53:57 PM »

I'm a Quebecois nationalist, but only within the time period when they really were disenfranchised (and when an ancestor of mine fought in a rebellion against the colonial government). Now, they're doing pretty well in Canada, so I don't really support Quebecois independence that much.
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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2016, 03:04:59 PM »


That's not exactly the same thing as "scene nationalism"...if such a thing can exist.

I'm answering the question you asked.

I worded it kind of oddly I guess (blame the character limit), I was asking more if connection to "chosen groups" is itself a form of nationalism as at least one person seems to think.

I mean yeah I do consider myself much closer to the other people in my scene than people of a similar ethnic background or who happened to be born in the same country, but I don't see that as nationalism.

Well...obviously no, one can only be a nationalist about a nation.
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