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« on: April 27, 2016, 11:31:16 AM »

Here's the interview, and the quote I found particularly amusing and ridiculous:
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump-on-rivals-clinton-and-his-campaign-674589763624

*video about Hillary rebutting him on the "woman card" during her victory speech last night plays*
Mika: "It seems like that would be the one area...I think she would be incredibly strong on those issues"
Trump: "Well, I haven't quite recovered from her shouting that message.  A lot of people would say you can't say that about a woman because women don't shout, but the way she shouted that message was just, oof, I just, that's the way she said it, and I guess I'll have to get used to it over the next four or five months."

Have we ever had a bigger troll running for president?
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2016, 11:42:53 AM »

He must be very disoriented and confused. He is supposed to be climbing out of the hole, not digging a deeper one Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2016, 12:49:07 PM »

Once again ....
Little-Hands-Drumpf-Fuhrer is an idiot.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2016, 12:55:34 PM »

Once again ....
Little-Hands-Drumpf-Fuhrer is an idiot.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2016, 12:56:45 PM »

Little Donny is just mad that female voters aren't going for him.
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2016, 12:57:53 PM »

Nice to see you all live in an echo chamber.
Good for you guys and girls, till your bubble bursts.
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2016, 01:05:09 PM »

Clinton can be shrill and obnoxious. More at 11.

So can Cruz and Trump. It's not sexist to say, it's a gender-neutral observation.
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2016, 01:38:02 PM »

He isn't playing in the Republican primary anymore. Now he's in the big leagues against the Democrats and all his gaffes will destroy him
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2016, 02:41:19 PM »

He isn't playing in the Republican primary anymore. Now he's in the big leagues against the Democrats and all his gaffes will destroy him

Lets hope and pray so.
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2016, 02:41:36 PM »

I loved her woman card line. Deal me in!
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2016, 07:47:04 PM »

A picture is worth a thousand words.

https://vine.co/v/iPBwwEuPIU5
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2016, 08:23:15 PM »
« Edited: April 27, 2016, 08:24:46 PM by ProudModerate2 »


Yep.
Everyone needs to see this video.
It is Chris Christie's wife rolling her eyes as stupid trump says "The only thing she's got going is the woman's card. And the beautiful thing is women don't like her."
Is trump really trying to win women over with this comment ? What a disaster he is.

To read more on this, here is a CNN link :
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/27/politics/mary-pat-christie-face-trump-women/index.html
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2016, 09:18:31 PM »

Trump is planting a seed in everyone's mind. What he said is 100% true and the more the media report on this "outrageous gaffe", the more that seed will blossom.

If Hillary Clinton was Hank Rodham, Bernie Sanders would be the next President.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2016, 09:27:49 PM »

Trump is planting a seed in everyone's mind. What he said is 100% true and the more the media report on this "outrageous gaffe", the more that seed will blossom.

If Hillary Clinton was Hank Rodham, Bernie Sanders would be the next President.

I don't entirely agree with this article, but it does a pretty good job making the opposite case: http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/if-bernie-had-been-bernadette.
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2016, 09:33:25 PM »

Just in case anyone needs a reminder of Trump's 70% disapproval rating with women.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/190403/seven-women-unfavorable-opinion-trump.aspx
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2016, 09:38:39 PM »

Trump is planting a seed in everyone's mind. What he said is 100% true and the more the media report on this "outrageous gaffe", the more that seed will blossom.
If Hillary Clinton was Hank Rodham, Bernie Sanders would be the next President.

Wow.
Some people are so delusional.
They think that just because reverse-psychology tactics work on brainless trump supporters, that their same stupid hypnosis will work on the rest of the electorate.
Surprise !
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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2016, 09:43:49 PM »

Not defending Trump at all, but I have to admit that I usually turn down the volume on Hillary speeches because it literally hurts my ears...  It's not a woman thing.  It's a Hillary thing.

Agreed. Hillary can be a bit shrill.


Yeah, but lest you get too overjoyed, remember that a good many people have trouble with the frontrunners in both parties...
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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2016, 09:50:54 PM »

If Hillary Clinton was Hank Rodham, Bernie Sanders would be the next President.

If it were Hank Rodham, my hunch is that the whole field would have looked different.  Quite possible that another woman would have decided to run if there wasn't already one in the race.
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2016, 09:53:56 PM »

I think Hillary definitely overcompensates when she speaks in order to appear tough and avoid charges of being weak or unable to lead - I'll admit that it is more challenging for a woman, especially an older one, to run for office in light of achieving this balance.  Hillary does it especially poorly though. 
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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2016, 09:56:52 PM »

Not defending Trump at all, but I have to admit that I usually turn down the volume on Hillary speeches because it literally hurts my ears...  It's not a woman thing.  It's a Hillary thing.

Agreed. Hillary can be a bit shrill.


Yeah, but lest you get too overjoyed, remember that a good many people have trouble with the frontrunners in both parties...

One poll cherry picked by you doesn't tell us anything.  Let's take a look at the Trump-Clinton head-to-head polling aggregates, which has her leading by an average of 46%-38%.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2016, 10:10:58 PM »

Does anyone think the Democrats would nominate a guy with Hillary Clinton's record at this time? If Hillary Clinton was Hugh Rodham, a friend and senior adviser to Governor and President Bill Clinton who went on to serve as Senator from New York and Secretary of State, would this individual do as well right now?
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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2016, 10:24:13 PM »

And let's not forget that even among white women, trump is losing horribly.
Republicans can usually rely on at least white women, to vote R (more than D).
But look at this enormous, and I mean ENORMOUS, hole trump is in at this time.
This is staggering, and I cant see how he can dig himself out of this type of deficit within 6 months.

(Taken from another thread ....)
Yep...this is what unelectability looks like....


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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2016, 01:18:37 AM »

Trump is planting a seed in everyone's mind. What he said is 100% true and the more the media report on this "outrageous gaffe", the more that seed will blossom.

If Hillary Clinton was Hank Rodham, Bernie Sanders would be the next President.

I don't entirely agree with this article, but it does a pretty good job making the opposite case: http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/if-bernie-had-been-bernadette.

I don't think it does. Feminist persecution complex aside, if Bernadette Sanders had the "lovable socialist grandmom" persona instead of the "lovable socialist grandpa" persona, I don't think she'd be doing worse. Hell, she probably would win the nominee.

Does anyone think the Democrats would nominate a guy with Hillary Clinton's record at this time? If Hillary Clinton was Hugh Rodham, a friend and senior adviser to Governor and President Bill Clinton who went on to serve as Senator from New York and Secretary of State, would this individual do as well right now?

Let's not even get to the fact that Hugh Rodman wouldn't have been a Senator from New York or a Secretary of State.

If Hillary Clinton was Hank Rodham, Bernie Sanders would be the next President.

If it were Hank Rodham, my hunch is that the whole field would have looked different.  Quite possible that another woman would have decided to run if there wasn't already one in the race.


Maybe imagine if she faced down Bernadette Sanders?

Not defending Trump at all, but I have to admit that I usually turn down the volume on Hillary speeches because it literally hurts my ears...  It's not a woman thing.  It's a Hillary thing.

Agreed. Hillary can be a bit shrill.

I think Hillary definitely overcompensates when she speaks in order to appear tough and avoid charges of being weak or unable to lead - I'll admit that it is more challenging for a woman, especially an older one, to run for office in light of achieving this balance.  Hillary does it especially poorly though. 

I actually don't get the shrill complaints. I've seen Hillary speeches with other people - including center-left moderates, and they immediately volunteer how much they hate Hillary and her speeches. I never found her shrill and I always found her on-point, speaking well about issues that I often think are pretty appealing. She's one of only two candidates I've met in any capacity besides brief campaign handshaking - and she's likeable: in the words of Obama, "likable enough."

Now, I still hate everything she stands for, a corporatist Wall Street SJW fad-driven agenda of Bill Clinton (who I DO hate), but she's more likeable than Obama.
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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2016, 01:45:26 AM »

Does anyone think the Democrats would nominate a guy with Hillary Clinton's record at this time? If Hillary Clinton was Hugh Rodham, a friend and senior adviser to Governor and President Bill Clinton who went on to serve as Senator from New York and Secretary of State, would this individual do as well right now?

You mean Hugh Rodham didn't lose a Senate race in Florida by 40 points in this scenario?  Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2016, 02:24:13 AM »
« Edited: April 28, 2016, 02:28:34 AM by Meclazine »

Trump is playing a game.

Its called 'free media attention'.

He manipulates the media with their own stupidity. All the while, the media tells you how racist, sexist and stupid he is.

But in reality, he is the presumptive head on everyones TV, PC or mobile phone screen.

70% of Americans believe the primaries are rigged and the media is controlled. So when Trump shows up with his sledge hammer and starts cracking heads, the people love it.

They were already on his side.

Media airtime = votes. It really is that simple.

Just ask Kasich and Carson.
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