Do artistically inclined people tend to be more liberal?

[Palefire]

Do artistically inclined people tend to be more liberal?

[Gabu]

I would say yes, on average.

[A18]

People who actually care about this kind of stuff do.

[Beet]

Isnt' this the standard conservative explanation to what they perceive as too many people with liberal views among the acting profession?

[Hitchabrut]

Not in music, but in every other aspect, I have seen from personal experience that those with artistic talent are more liberal, quieter, and more submissive.

[Alcon]

Not in music, but in every other aspect, I have seen from personal experience that those with artistic talent are more liberal, quieter, and more submissive.

I think that artistic people tend to be more emotionally open, and thus sensitive and recoil from social interaction - hence the quiet and submissive part.

[Bono]

Not in music, but in every other aspect, I have seen from personal experience that those with artistic talent are more liberal, quieter, and more submissive.

Well, you obviously have never met artists with a temperament before.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Well, you obviously have never met artists with a temperament before.

Most of those don't have any talent

[Gabu]

Not in music, but in every other aspect, I have seen from personal experience that those with artistic talent are more liberal, quieter, and more submissive.

Well, you obviously have never met artists with a temperament before.

Yes, I've found that there are four main types of artists in the modern world:

1. The "wow I am so deep" artist.  The WIASD artist can't be bothered to create anything remotely resembling anything in the least, nor can he make his abstract art even appealing, and he justifies his less than attractive art by claiming that it's some sort of amazing examination of the nature of life or a random human emotion.  He makes up for the fact that his creation is just stacked pieces of garbage or three solid lines on a canvas by creating a five-hour spiel on why you should like it instead of thinking that the artist is simply untalented.  The WIASD artist gets very incensed if you dare to tell him the truth, which is that 99% of people think that the things he creates are retarded, and that the only ones he's really fooling are the art critics.

2. The morbid "nobody understands me" artist.  The MNUM artist usually never gets any of his stuff actually put on display in an art gallery, but he is nonetheless convinced that he is the best artist in the history of mankind and that everyone else simply doesn't understand the genius behind his works.  Most (if not all) of his art projects revolve around heavily uplifting topics such as "death", "hate", and "the hopelessness of life".  The MNUM artist can sometimes be actually reasonably talented, but he more than makes up for that by being the most condescending ass that you've ever met.

3. The "one-hit wonder" artist.  The OHW artist did one thing really well, and because it was so successful, he decided to base his entire career off of doing that same thing over and over again.  What this is exactly can vary, but you can rest assured that no art project from the OHW artist will exist without it.  The OHW artist usually has a very dedicated fan base who absolutely love the one thing he can do, but everyone else would really like to see something new for a change.

4. The "hey, maybe I don't need to validate my life with my art" artist.  The category of HMIDNTVMLWMA artist is the category that includes me.  HMIDNTVMLWMA artists are the types who may or may not be talented, but who possess the rare characteristic that they actually enjoy life and that their lives do not revolve around having people compliment their art.  Sure they'll like it if you like their art, but they're not going to rip your head off if you don't.  HMIDNTVMLWMA artists usually actually have other hobbies aside from art.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

[Gabu]

By the way, any stereotypes you've heard about modern art are mostly absolutely true.  During my vacation in Manhattan, I took a trip to the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and the modern art section was, in fact, literally 90% filled with canvases with a few solid lines and not much else.

I was very glad to find my way into the adjacent classical European section.

I should note, though, that some of them were pretty cool.  One that I especially liked was named after me.

[J. J.]

Do artistically inclined people tend to be more liberal?

How do you define "artistically inclined?"  I write, and publish, a lot, generally on technical things, but also on literature, history, and one published poem.  Does that make me an "artistically inclined" writer?

[MaC]

I think they have a more liberal personality than a conservative one.  As far as political ideology goes, there's some pressure from friends and society for them to be more liberal.  Also, they don't care as much about offending people with their art.  I guess this would be a socially liberal position, but the "free speech" preservation issue is rarely supported by politicians who are liberal.

Gabu, I play guitar and draw sometimes, I don't try drawing anything specific, so I call it "abstract".  I know this is an excuse for sucking horribly, and I don't give a care.  What would this classify me as?

[Gabu]

Gabu, I play guitar and draw sometimes, I don't try drawing anything specific, so I call it "abstract".  I know this is an excuse for sucking horribly, and I don't give a care.  What would this classify me as?

If you're not one of the first three, you're the fourth, and let me personally thank you profusely for this fact.

[dazzleman]

Generally, from what I have seen, yes.

[??????????]

Hitler was a liberal? The secret is out!

[Bono]

Hitler was a liberal? The secret is out!

He was certainly a socialist.

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Hitler was a liberal? The secret is out!

He was certainly a socialist.

Just like the Iraqi Republican guard were Republicans.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

By the way, any stereotypes you've heard about modern art are mostly absolutely true.

And entirely justify Kim Howells'... er... "comments" about the Turner Prize

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Reminds me of my trip to the Tate Modern a few years back; one room had one of those green floucesent lights you get in chippies or kebab vans on a wall. Apparently it were an exibit. Someone was looking at it very carefully making "ooh"ing noises and stepping back a bit to get a better look!
I'm proud to say that in another room I kicked the Pile Of Bricks

[Bono]

Hitler was a liberal? The secret is out!

He was certainly a socialist.

Just like the Iraqi Republican guard were Republicans.

Fascism is just a light form of socialism. Fascism nominally accepts the ownership of property, but in fact it doesn't allow people to control their own property.

Check my posts on nazi Economic Policy for more.

[J. J.]

Hitler was a liberal? The secret is out!

He was certainly a socialist.

I would even note that initially the Nazi's were expectionally socialist, especially the SA.  They actually were referring to a "Second Revolution" against big business in 1934.

[Palefire]

I'd say yes. I think creativity, free thinking and imagination tend to lead to liberalism. But, that is not saying that liberalism tends to leads to creativity, free thinking and imagination.

[Bono]

I'd say yes. I think creativity, free thinking and imagination tend to lead to liberalism. But, that is not saying that liberalism tends to leads to creativity, free thinking and imagination.

yes, and being close minded, sheeple and boring tend to lead to right wing.
Shut up with your elitist crap already.

[Palefire]

I think reality bears out my point. But I was really just trying to reclaim the thread from being another odious Hitler discussion.

As far as YOUR point about right wingers tending to be close minded, sheeple and boring; I'd have to disagree. Both sides have plenty of them.

Manners, manners.

[George W. Bush]

It would seem that way, Yes.