RINO Tom/Rockefeller GOP v. Santander/Southern Gothic

[YaBoyNY]

Awful Rockefeller Republican >White supremacist

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

Probably Tom, but I think Santander would win.

[Figueira]

Now that I know Santander more, I think I'd vote for Tom.

[White Trash]

I just had the realization that Tom would win. Santander is a immigrant IIRC. Plus, Santander and I would clash too much to be a viable ticket.

[Virginiá]

I just had the realization that Tom would win. Santander is a immigrant IIRC. Plus, Santander and I would clash too much to be a viable ticket.

Honestly I'm still trying to figure out exactly what tethers Santander to the Democratic party. His posts/views seem more Republican-ish/conservative.

[White Trash]

I just had the realization that Tom would win. Santander is a immigrant IIRC. Plus, Santander and I would clash too much to be a viable ticket.

Honestly I'm still trying to figure out exactly what tethers Santander to the Democratic party. His posts/views seem more Republican-ish/conservative.

Same thing that ties RINO Tom to the Pubs. Orneriness.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I higgly doubt Southern Gothic would want to share a ticket with the other guy.

[White Trash]

I higgly doubt Southern Gothic would want to share a ticket with the other guy.

I like Santander. I consider a friend and all, but there is no way we would work as a ticket. The fact that I'm going to be engaged to a Black woman may or may not sit well with him. Plus, I'm much more socially moderate than people seem to think.

[Santander]

I like Santander. I consider a friend and all, but there is no way we would work as a ticket. The fact that I'm going to be engaged to a Black woman may or may not sit well with him.

Let me assure you, I have absolutely no problem with that. Still, I agree that I'm too much of a culture warrior for us to fit on the same ticket.

I just had the realization that Tom would win. Santander is a immigrant IIRC. Plus, Santander and I would clash too much to be a viable ticket.

Honestly I'm still trying to figure out exactly what tethers Santander to the Democratic party. His posts/views seem more Republican-ish/conservative.

It's complicated. Long story short(ish), I once lived a comfortable life as a suburban conservative who attended private schools, but life took a turn for the worse and I ended up with nothing, working blue-collar jobs 60+ hours a week, paying own way through college. I became a union steward, I saw how fragile and difficult life was for so many people and I became committed to workers' rights and organized labor. If it weren't for a union, I would not have been able to support my parents at that age. When I went to business school a few years ago, I was again surrounded by Republicans and I got dragged to the right on just about every issue. I've lived enough years of my adult life among blue-collar folks that I consider myself to be one of them, and I'm a Democrat because I cannot bring myself to identify with a party that busts unions, attacks teachers and deifies "job creators".

[Virginiá]

because I cannot bring myself to identify with a party that busts unions, attacks teachers and deifies "job creators".

Fair enough

This was one of the first major issues I had with them years ago when I started focusing on politics more. They almost always come down on the side of businesses. There is a difference, to me, between being pro-business and anti-worker. Nowadays, it does not seem to matter what the issue is, as they can very reliably be expected to side with businesses. Quite frankly, I don't understand how anyone can really say that they are on the side of the working man, especially given their economic policy over the past 25+ years.

[beaver2.0]

It's complicated. Long story short(ish), I once lived a comfortable life as a suburban conservative who attended private schools, but life took a turn for the worse and I ended up with nothing, working blue-collar jobs 60+ hours a week, paying own way through college. I became a union steward, I saw how fragile and difficult life was for so many people and I became committed to workers' rights and organized labor. If it weren't for a union, I would not have been able to support my parents at that age. When I went to business school a few years ago, I was again surrounded by Republicans and I got dragged to the right on just about every issue. I've lived enough years of my adult life among blue-collar folks that I consider myself to be one of them, and I'm a Democrat because I cannot bring myself to identify with a party that busts unions, attacks teachers and deifies "job creators".

How socially conservative are you?

[Santander]

It's complicated. Long story short(ish), I once lived a comfortable life as a suburban conservative who attended private schools, but life took a turn for the worse and I ended up with nothing, working blue-collar jobs 60+ hours a week, paying own way through college. I became a union steward, I saw how fragile and difficult life was for so many people and I became committed to workers' rights and organized labor. If it weren't for a union, I would not have been able to support my parents at that age. When I went to business school a few years ago, I was again surrounded by Republicans and I got dragged to the right on just about every issue. I've lived enough years of my adult life among blue-collar folks that I consider myself to be one of them, and I'm a Democrat because I cannot bring myself to identify with a party that busts unions, attacks teachers and deifies "job creators".

How socially conservative are you?

I'm basically a paleocon on social issues, but I happen to be moderate on abortion and same-sex marriage. I'd feel very comfortable in a room full of Republicans talking about social issues.

[White Trash]

My deepest apologies. I had just heard rumors that got me worried.

[Kingpoleon]

My deepest apologies. I had just heard rumors that got me worried.

Everyone right of center has rumours about them on Atlas. I'm a far-right Neo-Nazi 'centrist' who is only sane compared to the Republicans.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I just had the realization that Tom would win. Santander is a immigrant IIRC. Plus, Santander and I would clash too much to be a viable ticket.

Honestly I'm still trying to figure out exactly what tethers Santander to the Democratic party.

He's yet to realize the days of John W. Davis are over.

[RINO Tom]

I just had the realization that Tom would win. Santander is a immigrant IIRC. Plus, Santander and I would clash too much to be a viable ticket.

Honestly I'm still trying to figure out exactly what tethers Santander to the Democratic party.

He's yet to realize the days of John W. Davis are over.

He explained himself perfectly well a few posts up, but whatever you say.

[windjammer]

Sometimes, I wonder if West Virginia didn't become a GOP stronghold in order to troll RINO Tom haha

[RFayette]

Sometimes, I wonder if West Virginia didn't become a GOP stronghold in order to troll RINO Tom haha

I fully admit that when I wrote my thread in the Political Geography/Demographics subforum, I had RINO Tom in mind.

[RINO Tom]

Sometimes, I wonder if West Virginia didn't become a GOP stronghold in order to troll RINO Tom haha

I mean, they probably just got tired of voting for a party that had kept them poor for decades.

[SATW]

I like RINO Tom, so I'll vote for the GOP in this. Santander and So. Gothic are chill too. Don't know Rockefeller Repub well enough to take an opinion.

[IceSpear]

Sometimes, I wonder if West Virginia didn't become a GOP stronghold in order to troll RINO Tom haha

I can't wait to see his reaction when WV is the most Republican state in the country.

[RINO Tom]

Sometimes, I wonder if West Virginia didn't become a GOP stronghold in order to troll RINO Tom haha

I can't wait to see his reaction when WV is the most Republican state in the country.

I don't hate entire states of people, so I won't really care and will appreciate how remarkable of a shift the state has made politically and not chalk it up to some lame reason like "it just took them a while to change their registration" or "they were racist conservatives all along!"  WV was a stronghold for progressive economics for a long time, and after it failed the state year after year after year, they're willing to try something different, I guess.

[windjammer]

Sometimes, I wonder if West Virginia didn't become a GOP stronghold in order to troll RINO Tom haha

I can't wait to see his reaction when WV is the most Republican state in the country.

I don't hate entire states of people, so I won't really care and will appreciate how remarkable of a shift the state has made politically and not chalk it up to some lame reason like "it just took them a while to change their registration" or "they were racist conservatives all along!"  WV was a stronghold for progressive economics for a long time, and after it failed the state year after year after year, they're willing to try something different, I guess.

Do you seriously believe WV has become a GOP state because they find the free marketer part of the GOP programm appealing?

Hahaha

[IceSpear]

Sometimes, I wonder if West Virginia didn't become a GOP stronghold in order to troll RINO Tom haha

I can't wait to see his reaction when WV is the most Republican state in the country.

I don't hate entire states of people, so I won't really care and will appreciate how remarkable of a shift the state has made politically and not chalk it up to some lame reason like "it just took them a while to change their registration" or "they were racist conservatives all along!"  WV was a stronghold for progressive economics for a long time, and after it failed the state year after year after year, they're willing to try something different, I guess.

Do you seriously believe WV has become a GOP state because they find the free marketer part of the GOP programm appealing?

Hahaha

If the Crook County RINO wants to know why we REALLY switched parties, he can PM me.

[RINO Tom]

It is WAY too important to you guys' self-inflated images of yourselves and your party to believe what you currently do about Southern realignment, and I'm fine with letting you continue to believe that.