Clinton/Warren (D) vs. Trump/Webb (R)

[Frodo]

Let's suppose Jim Webb does a Zell Miller (he already has made clear he prefers Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton), and becomes Trump's running-mate. 

How would the race play out between the two tickets? 

[Figueira]

Clinton/Satan (D) would beat Trump/Jesus (R).

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Won't happen.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

NO ONE CARES ABOUT JIM WEBB ANYMORE

[Santander]

Best-case scenario for Trump:

Trump/Webb 292 EV
Clinton/Warren 246 EV

This looks good to me.

Trump/Webb would be an amazing ticket, but Webb's a very independent person and I'm not sure he could handle running with Trump, let alone serving with him. Trump needs a flamboyant but reliable yes man like Christie.

[Frodo]

Won't happen.

Trump doesn't care about GOP unity, so why wouldn't he pick Jim Webb?  And as for Hillary, I wouldn't rule her out doing the unexpected (like Bill did with Al Gore in 1992) and doubling down with another woman on the ticket.  

[Camaro33]

Trump/Webb may be the best ticket I have heard to date.
I'd realign the Republican party better in the long run than any other ticket possible this cycle.

[White Trash]

I'd be sorely disappointed if Jim Webb was in any way, shape, or form attached to a Trump candidacy. My admiration for Webb would break in a heartbeat and I'd still vote for Clinton.

[7,052,770]

There really isn't any set of VPs that will significantly move the needle in a Hillary vs. Trump race.

[Illiniwek]

Donald J. Trump/Jim Webb - 333 EV (52.7%)
Hillary Clinton/Elizabeth Warren - 205 EV (45.9%)

I actually think that Jim Webb may be a good pick for Trump, it'll probably help him alot with more conservative/centrist Democrats that he is already attracting.

Welcome to Atlas. And NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE.

I think you're looking at somewhere between 2008-2012. Webb keeps Hillary from making inroads in Missouri/Indiana type states.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Guys probably 1% of people outside of Virginia even remember who Webb is.

[libertpaulian]

Best-case scenario for Trump:

Trump/Webb 292 EV
Clinton/Warren 246 EV

I'd give Trump NH and CO as well.

[White Trash]

The above posters are right. The only thing Webb could add is keep Indiana and Missouri in the GOP fold. He might make in roads in Ohio and maybe even swing over Virginia, maybe. But as far as helping Trump win Michigan and Pennsylvania? That's gotta be a joke.

Webb could be something of a map-expander for the Democrats, he appeals to certain elements of the Republican base. But he is certainly not going to put Democratic states like Pennsylvania and Michigan in play for the Republicans.

[IceSpear]

NO ONE CARES ABOUT JIM WEBB ANYMORE

Did anyone ever care? Except for a few days in 2006 when his race decided Senate control.

[IceSpear]

Also, movement conservatives are already extremely skeptical of Trump. How do you think they'd react to him choosing a pro-choice Democrat with a liberal voting record who supported Obamacare and endorsed/campaigned for Obama twice? This would be worse than Hillary picking Joe Lieberman.

[Kingpoleon]

276: Clinton/Warren(48.3%)
262: Trump/Webb(48.8%)
Others: 2.9%


Trump's keynote Speaker, John Kasich, and the Democratic keynote speaker, Gavin Newsom, are both considered to have done great jobs. Unfortunately, I think Warren might outshine Clinton. While Trump continues to be nuanced on abortion and gay marriage, he strikes a tough tone on fair but free trade to mobilize the base. His outreach to blacks includes blaming free trade for their high unemployment.

Republicans cry foul, and while they confirm Garland, 2018 becomes a massive landslide for them. Richard Tisei holds on in Massachusetts, while they also pick up a seat in Missouri, Indiana, North Dakota, and West Virginia when Manchin retires. Despite Johnson and Toomey losing in 2016, this gives them 57 seats. Steve Austria winning in Ohio makes it 58, Paulsen makes it 59(MN), Dent makes it 60(PA), and Tom Davis makes it 61(VA).

I'd say either Kasich or Webb wins in 2020.

[libertpaulian]

The above posters are right. The only thing Webb could add is keep Indiana and Missouri in the GOP fold. He might make in roads in Ohio and maybe even swing over Virginia, maybe. But as far as helping Trump win Michigan and Pennsylvania? That's gotta be a joke.

Webb could be something of a map-expander for the Democrats, he appeals to certain elements of the Republican base. But he is certainly not going to put Democratic states like Pennsylvania and Michigan in play for the Republicans.

He's a Southerner.  He could help Trump keep FL, NC, and VA.  And like you said, maybe help Trump deliver OH.  Then, all Trump would need to do is win a tiny swing state like NH or IA.

[libertpaulian]

I'd give Trump NH and CO as well.

If Trump is winning NH against a CLINTON/WARREN ticket, he's winning in VT, MD and MA as well.

NH isn't a solid blue state like VT, lol.  It's a swing state that tilts slightly blue.

[White Trash]

The above posters are right. The only thing Webb could add is keep Indiana and Missouri in the GOP fold. He might make in roads in Ohio and maybe even swing over Virginia, maybe. But as far as helping Trump win Michigan and Pennsylvania? That's gotta be a joke.

Webb could be something of a map-expander for the Democrats, he appeals to certain elements of the Republican base. But he is certainly not going to put Democratic states like Pennsylvania and Michigan in play for the Republicans.

He's a Southerner.  He could help Trump keep FL, NC, and VA.  And like you said, maybe help Trump deliver OH.  Then, all Trump would need to do is win a tiny swing state like NH or IA.

You seem to be under the impression that just because some spits out a few "y'alls" and really digs into their "r's" Southerners will be willing to disregard their entire political history and toss a vote their way. Sectionalism and regional pride hasn't really been a significant issue for a long time.

Yes, Webb would help a bit in the South. But what little he does to help isn't going to counter everything that Trump has done to hurt.

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With Trump, NH is likely Dem. Clinton or Sanders would pick Tsi Gabbard before Warren and Sandersahould have picked her should he had been nominated. Dem floor is 252 a Kerry electorate.

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I'd give Trump NH and CO as well.

If Trump is winning NH against a CLINTON/WARREN ticket, he's winning in VT, MD and MA as well.

NH isn't a solid blue state like VT, lol.  It's a swing state that tilts slightly blue.

TNVolunteer has a bit of an obsession with New Hampshire.

[libertpaulian]

The above posters are right. The only thing Webb could add is keep Indiana and Missouri in the GOP fold. He might make in roads in Ohio and maybe even swing over Virginia, maybe. But as far as helping Trump win Michigan and Pennsylvania? That's gotta be a joke.

Webb could be something of a map-expander for the Democrats, he appeals to certain elements of the Republican base. But he is certainly not going to put Democratic states like Pennsylvania and Michigan in play for the Republicans.

He's a Southerner.  He could help Trump keep FL, NC, and VA.  And like you said, maybe help Trump deliver OH.  Then, all Trump would need to do is win a tiny swing state like NH or IA.

You seem to be under the impression that just because some spits out a few "y'alls" and really digs into their "r's" Southerners will be willing to disregard their entire political history and toss a vote their way. Sectionalism and regional pride hasn't really been a significant issue for a long time.

Yes, Webb would help a bit in the South. But what little he does to help isn't going to counter everything that Trump has done to hurt.

I mean "Southerner" in a more broad sense.  I don't mean simply that he's from the same region and speaks with the same accent.  He can tap into the working class values that they used as a deciding factor in their votes, which is namely economic populism and pro-worker policies.

[White Trash]

The above posters are right. The only thing Webb could add is keep Indiana and Missouri in the GOP fold. He might make in roads in Ohio and maybe even swing over Virginia, maybe. But as far as helping Trump win Michigan and Pennsylvania? That's gotta be a joke.

Webb could be something of a map-expander for the Democrats, he appeals to certain elements of the Republican base. But he is certainly not going to put Democratic states like Pennsylvania and Michigan in play for the Republicans.

He's a Southerner.  He could help Trump keep FL, NC, and VA.  And like you said, maybe help Trump deliver OH.  Then, all Trump would need to do is win a tiny swing state like NH or IA.

You seem to be under the impression that just because some spits out a few "y'alls" and really digs into their "r's" Southerners will be willing to disregard their entire political history and toss a vote their way. Sectionalism and regional pride hasn't really been a significant issue for a long time.

Yes, Webb would help a bit in the South. But what little he does to help isn't going to counter everything that Trump has done to hurt.

I mean "Southerner" in a more broad sense.  I don't mean simply that he's from the same region and speaks with the same accent.  He can tap into the working class values that they used as a deciding factor in their votes, which is namely economic populism and pro-worker policies.

Sure he could. But Trump is already doing that with the economic populism and his "hard on trade" stance. Webb appeals to a group that Trump already appeals to. In fact, he may even push some away. Despite his past Republican affiliation, Webb's senate record was quite Liberal.

[libertpaulian]

NH isn't a solid blue state like VT, lol.  It's a swing state that tilts slightly blue.

When was the last time Republicans won a statewide race in NH? 2010? And before that, 2004? It's actually the least GOP-friendly New England state.  Clinton/Warren losing NH is as plausible as Trump winning Hawaii.

I never said that NH was a pure swing state like FL or OH.  However, despite its D-leaning tendencies, it leans more "swing" than it does in one partisan direction or the other.

Papi Bush lost it by a hair in 1992.  Clinton won it in 1996 mainly due to the economic boom and incumbency factor.  Bush the Lesser won it in 2000.  Kerry barely won it in 2004 due to anti-Iraq sentiments.  Obama won it in 2008 because of anti-GOP anger and the Great Recession.  Obama won it in 2012 because of 1) incumbency factor, and 2) the "War on Women" meme.  

VT votes D because the Democrats tend to match their personal values more than the GOP does.

[libertpaulian]

The above posters are right. The only thing Webb could add is keep Indiana and Missouri in the GOP fold. He might make in roads in Ohio and maybe even swing over Virginia, maybe. But as far as helping Trump win Michigan and Pennsylvania? That's gotta be a joke.

Webb could be something of a map-expander for the Democrats, he appeals to certain elements of the Republican base. But he is certainly not going to put Democratic states like Pennsylvania and Michigan in play for the Republicans.

He's a Southerner.  He could help Trump keep FL, NC, and VA.  And like you said, maybe help Trump deliver OH.  Then, all Trump would need to do is win a tiny swing state like NH or IA.

You seem to be under the impression that just because some spits out a few "y'alls" and really digs into their "r's" Southerners will be willing to disregard their entire political history and toss a vote their way. Sectionalism and regional pride hasn't really been a significant issue for a long time.

Yes, Webb would help a bit in the South. But what little he does to help isn't going to counter everything that Trump has done to hurt.

I mean "Southerner" in a more broad sense.  I don't mean simply that he's from the same region and speaks with the same accent.  He can tap into the working class values that they used as a deciding factor in their votes, which is namely economic populism and pro-worker policies.

Sure he could. But Trump is already doing that with the economic populism and his "hard on trade" stance. Webb appeals to a group that Trump already appeals to. In fact, he may even push some away. Despite his past Republican affiliation, Webb's senate record was quite Liberal.

Trump voters aren't your typical voters.  They're not voting for Trump the Republican because Rush Limbaugh or James Dobson or the Club for Growth told them to.  They're staunchly independent and vote for Trump probably despite the fact that he's running as a Republican, not because of it.

The ones who tend to vote Republican on a regular basis but hopped on the Trump Train would probably like Trump's controversial pick.