IN-NBC/WSJ/Marist: D: Clinton 50% Sanders 46%; R: Trump 49% Cruz 34% Kasich 13%
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« Reply #50 on: May 01, 2016, 04:18:20 PM »

Trump has a higher chance of winning New Hampshire than losing Indiana. Smiley

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« Reply #51 on: May 01, 2016, 04:19:47 PM »
« Edited: May 01, 2016, 04:21:43 PM by RR1997 »

Or maybe, you know, the GA, NC, MO and UT polls were junk? Clinton is winning IN before she wins MO, UT or GA. Period. Early general election polls are useless as sh*t.

Lol no.

Why would Trump lose Indiana? He's literally the perfect fit for the state (unlike McCain). Indiana is full of low-information rust-belt whites who hate free trade and immigration. Trump is going to get these people to turnout at record levels. Indiana is full of angry men who will love Trump. Clinton is winning Utah, Georgia, and Missouri before she wins Indiana. Clinton is also winning Wyoming and Alabama before she wins Indiana.

Okay, so you're just trolling. Good to know.

Ok, I was joking about Alabama and Wyoming, but I am completely (100%) serious about Utah, Georgia, and Missouri. Trump is literally the perfect fit for Indiana. Indiana will massively trend towards Trump. Why would Trump lose Indiana? His populist message is perfect for this state.
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« Reply #52 on: May 01, 2016, 04:33:07 PM »

Or maybe, you know, the GA, NC, MO and UT polls were junk? Clinton is winning IN before she wins MO, UT or GA. Period. Early general election polls are useless as sh*t.

Lol no.

Why would Trump lose Indiana? He's literally the perfect fit for the state (unlike McCain). Indiana is full of low-information rust-belt whites who hate free trade and immigration. Trump is going to get these people to turnout at record levels. Indiana is full of angry men who will love Trump. Clinton is winning Utah, Georgia, and Missouri before she wins Indiana. Clinton is also winning Wyoming and Alabama before she wins Indiana.

Okay, so you're just trolling. Good to know.
lol, this rings a bell.
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« Reply #53 on: May 01, 2016, 04:39:05 PM »

RR1997's Indiana obsession is as valid as your New Hampshire one.
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« Reply #54 on: May 01, 2016, 04:40:37 PM »


I'm serious about this whole NH thing, though.
So you seriously believe that Hawaii and Vermont are more Democratic than New Hampshire?
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« Reply #55 on: May 01, 2016, 04:45:08 PM »

RR1997's Indiana obsession is as valid as your New Hampshire one.
No.

My obsession with Indiana is not as valid as TNVolunteer's obsession with NH. It is a lot more valid. Obama beat Romney 5 points in NH. Romney beat Obama by 10 points in Indiana. Despite the fact that Trump is down by 8-15 points nationwide, he's still ahead by a lot in Indiana. McCain lost Indiana because he was seen as a RINO by most conservatives there, so they stayed home. Trump should easily win Indiana.
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« Reply #56 on: May 01, 2016, 04:53:24 PM »
« Edited: May 02, 2016, 06:13:43 AM by Torie »

It is not the end, but neither is it merely the beginning of the end - it's more like the beginning of the end of the end. My emotion when it comes to the Pub party these days - et tu, Brute? It's metamorphosed my former life form, as if a caterpillar becomes a butterfly. My former habitat has too much of its acreage consigned to a toxic waste dump. It's just not good for me.
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« Reply #57 on: May 01, 2016, 05:00:30 PM »

Sad!
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« Reply #58 on: May 01, 2016, 05:02:53 PM »

Wow!  Looks like the Republican race is finally over.  Will Trump sweep every CD if this result holds?

Nate Silver and Harry Enten must be reeling right now.



Yes, Trump can't get more than 100% of the vote.
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« Reply #59 on: May 01, 2016, 05:05:52 PM »

Early general election polls are useless as sh*t.
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« Reply #60 on: May 01, 2016, 10:40:10 PM »


I'm serious about this whole NH thing, though.
So you seriously believe that Hawaii and Vermont are more Democratic than New Hampshire?

No, just that they're not less likely to vote Republican than NH. The Democrats' margin of victory might be wider in VT and HI, but that doesn't mean that NH is more competitive. Trump has zero appeal among women and liberal college students there. Most of them think he's worse than Hitler and Stalin combined and they will turn out in record setting numbers to prevent him from winning 270 electoral votes. NH will have the biggest gender gap of all states.

Despite the fact that Trump is down by 8-15 points nationwide, he's still ahead by a lot in Indiana. McCain lost Indiana because he was seen as a RINO by most conservatives there, so they stayed home. Trump should easily win Indiana.

Okay, but why did McCain win GA and MO, then? Also, Trump is "only" down 6-7 points and not 8-15 points.
NH is more likely to go red for Trump than PA.
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« Reply #61 on: May 02, 2016, 12:46:47 AM »
« Edited: May 02, 2016, 12:58:09 AM by Eternal Senator North Carolina Yankee »

Unless Trump collapses, I feel reasonably good about him winning AZ and GA now (the current demographics will save him, but expedite them trending Dem. If he wins GA could go Democratic in 2018 instead of 2022 of instance).

MO and Indiana actually do fit Trump rather well and I think he likewise wins both. The question will be by what margins. Used to be winning GOP Presidents won Indiana by around 20%. Perhaps MO is the new Indiana of old on that score, I see Trump getting 20% there more easily than in Indiana.

Trump's problem is breaking through to 270.
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« Reply #62 on: May 02, 2016, 01:00:47 AM »

Unless Trump collapses, I feel reasonably good about him winning, AZ and GA now (the current demographics will save him, but expedite them trending Dem. If he wins GA could go Democratic in 2018 instead of 2022 of instance.

MO and Indiana actually do fit Trump rather well and I think he likewise wins both. The question will be by what margins. Used to be winning GOP Presidents won Indiana by around 20%. Perhaps MO is the new Indiana of old on that score, I see Trump getting 20% there more easily than in Indiana.

Trump's problem is breaking through to 270.

GA IS NOT GOING DEM ANYTIME SOON.   THIS STATE (EX ATL parts of it) IS STILL VERY REDISH.  Crooked Hillary is the wrong type of candidate anyway.  Bill possibly could.  Grabbing guns and open boarders is a sure way to get whites in rural GA to vote in mass against you.
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« Reply #63 on: May 02, 2016, 01:07:10 AM »

Unless Trump collapses, I feel reasonably good about him winning, AZ and GA now (the current demographics will save him, but expedite them trending Dem. If he wins GA could go Democratic in 2018 instead of 2022 of instance.

MO and Indiana actually do fit Trump rather well and I think he likewise wins both. The question will be by what margins. Used to be winning GOP Presidents won Indiana by around 20%. Perhaps MO is the new Indiana of old on that score, I see Trump getting 20% there more easily than in Indiana.

Trump's problem is breaking through to 270.

GA IS NOT GOING DEM ANYTIME SOON.   THIS STATE (EX ATL parts of it) IS STILL VERY REDISH.  Crooked Hillary is the wrong type of candidate anyway.  Bill possibly could.  Grabbing guns and open boarders is a sure way to get whites in rural GA to vote in mass against you.

... if you're going to write baseless emotion-riddled screeds... probably best to check your spelling.
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« Reply #64 on: May 02, 2016, 01:10:43 AM »
« Edited: May 02, 2016, 01:15:33 AM by MK »

Unless Trump collapses, I feel reasonably good about him winning, AZ and GA now (the current demographics will save him, but expedite them trending Dem. If he wins GA could go Democratic in 2018 instead of 2022 of instance.

MO and Indiana actually do fit Trump rather well and I think he likewise wins both. The question will be by what margins. Used to be winning GOP Presidents won Indiana by around 20%. Perhaps MO is the new Indiana of old on that score, I see Trump getting 20% there more easily than in Indiana.

Trump's problem is breaking through to 270.

GA IS NOT GOING DEM ANYTIME SOON.   THIS STATE (EX ATL parts of it) IS STILL VERY REDISH.  Crooked Hillary is the wrong type of candidate anyway.  Bill possibly could.  Grabbing guns and open boarders is a sure way to get whites in rural GA to vote in mass against you.

... if you're going to write baseless emotion-riddled screeds... probably best to check your spelling.

"Baseless emotion" like the ideal that Georgia is going to be a Hillary state?       

Give me a break.
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« Reply #65 on: May 02, 2016, 05:56:05 AM »

It is not the end, but neither is it merely the beginning of the end - it's more like the beginning of the end of the end. My emotion when it comes to the Pub party these days - et tu, Brute? It's metamorphosed my former life former, as if a caterpillar becomes a butterfly. My former habitat has too much of its acreage consigned to a toxic waste dump. It's just not good for me.

Come on, Torie, it's not that bad. You just haven't given Trump a second chance (yet). Smiley
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« Reply #66 on: May 02, 2016, 07:44:50 AM »

Unless Trump collapses, I feel reasonably good about him winning, AZ and GA now (the current demographics will save him, but expedite them trending Dem. If he wins GA could go Democratic in 2018 instead of 2022 of instance.

MO and Indiana actually do fit Trump rather well and I think he likewise wins both. The question will be by what margins. Used to be winning GOP Presidents won Indiana by around 20%. Perhaps MO is the new Indiana of old on that score, I see Trump getting 20% there more easily than in Indiana.

Trump's problem is breaking through to 270.

GA IS NOT GOING DEM ANYTIME SOON.   THIS STATE (EX ATL parts of it) IS STILL VERY REDISH.  Crooked Hillary is the wrong type of candidate anyway.  Bill possibly could.  Grabbing guns and open boarders is a sure way to get whites in rural GA to vote in mass against you.

... if you're going to write baseless emotion-riddled screeds... probably best to check your spelling.
His analysis of my home state is spot on. Georgia is not going Democrat anytime soon. Hillary! sure as heck is not going to win it. The suburbs are still reliably Republican, offsetting any nonsense in the city of Atlanta and DeKalb county. Rural Georgia is, was and remains Republican.

This holds true including Nathan "crooked" Deal.

The but minorities! meme does not hold water in Georgia at present.
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« Reply #67 on: May 02, 2016, 08:35:14 AM »

Unless Trump collapses, I feel reasonably good about him winning, AZ and GA now (the current demographics will save him, but expedite them trending Dem. If he wins GA could go Democratic in 2018 instead of 2022 of instance.

MO and Indiana actually do fit Trump rather well and I think he likewise wins both. The question will be by what margins. Used to be winning GOP Presidents won Indiana by around 20%. Perhaps MO is the new Indiana of old on that score, I see Trump getting 20% there more easily than in Indiana.

Trump's problem is breaking through to 270.

GA IS NOT GOING DEM ANYTIME SOON.   THIS STATE (EX ATL parts of it) IS STILL VERY REDISH.  Crooked Hillary is the wrong type of candidate anyway.  Bill possibly could.  Grabbing guns and open boarders is a sure way to get whites in rural GA to vote in mass against you.

... if you're going to write baseless emotion-riddled screeds... probably best to check your spelling.
His analysis of my home state is spot on. Georgia is not going Democrat anytime soon. Hillary! sure as heck is not going to win it. The suburbs are still reliably Republican, offsetting any nonsense in the city of Atlanta and DeKalb county. Rural Georgia is, was and remains Republican.

This holds true including Nathan "crooked" Deal.

The but minorities! meme does not hold water in Georgia at present.

We posters that actually live here know better.   Ga is strong Republican trumpist type of state outside of certain parts of Atlanta.   Case in point is the never ending fight with getting marta to other parts of the metro... republican controlled house shows zero support and dems aren't strong enough presence locally to get anything done.   Heck AZ might go Hillary before GA Trump would need to have a historic horrible campaign.    Dekalb will go strong for Hillray since they love crooked politicians.
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« Reply #68 on: May 02, 2016, 09:14:18 AM »

The sexist IN man thing is real
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« Reply #69 on: May 03, 2016, 07:59:49 PM »

Smiley
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« Reply #70 on: May 04, 2016, 03:01:20 AM »

LOL at the Kasich numbers and the Dem race.
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