Drinking habits by party affiliation

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Flawed methodology.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Flawed methodology.

I think you put a higher value on cultural conservatism, whereas I (for example) think it's less relevant than one's political conservatism (i.e., a Bible readin' White Southern male who loves God and country and lives a traditional lifestyle but strongly supports unions, redistributing income and regulating the free market has no business calling someone like me a RINO or liberal of any kind).  Using your (presumed) framework, I think there'd be a correlation, I do admit.

EDIT: Heavy drinker (R)

Didn't bother to read your post. "Flawed methodology" in the sense that being drunk once shouldn't be that strong of an indicator. Even effing Antonio's been drunk once. If the survey responses were tailor to a range of drinking, more information could be gleaned from this. There are a total of only six options; secondly, if the respondent had been drunk once, it puts them in a camp with people who might be drunk three nights a week. How much information are you going to get from that? The options are zero and greater-than-or-equal-to one. Even though doing an actually methodologically rigorous poll might be impossible on this forum in this format, there was still at least a better way to do this.

EDIT: Read your post. You're correct in your assumption, I guess. The "Bible thumper" might not be part of any Heritage foundation "conservative movement", but they will certainly be an impediment to progress. The essence of liberalism, as I understand it, was the triumph of individualism over tradition and, to an extent, community. In modern times, you can see this as advocated through attempts at universal, global norms being institutionalized through the United Nations as well as forum leftists guffawing at "muh aribtrary lines on a map". But I digress. Of course you're a "liberal Republican" in the sense that you're probably tolerant and perceive society in a relatively atomized fashion--individual over community, etc. (Didn't mean that in a hostile way, for the record)

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Flawed methodology.

I think you put a higher value on cultural conservatism, whereas I (for example) think it's less relevant than one's political conservatism (i.e., a Bible readin' White Southern male who loves God and country and lives a traditional lifestyle but strongly supports unions, redistributing income and regulating the free market has no business calling someone like me a RINO or liberal of any kind).  Using your (presumed) framework, I think there'd be a correlation, I do admit.

EDIT: Heavy drinker (R)

Didn't bother to read your post. "Flawed methodology" in the sense that being drunk once shouldn't be that strong of an indicator. Even effing Antonio's been drunk once. If the survey responses were tailor to a range of drinking, more information could be gleaned from this. There are a total of only six options; secondly, if the respondent had been drunk once, it puts them in a camp with people who might be drunk three nights a week. How much information are you going to get from that? The options are zero and greater-than-or-equal-to one. Even though doing an actually methodologically rigorous poll might be impossible on this forum in this format, there was still at least a better way to do this.

Yikes, guess I'll return the favor.

Jesus man, pay attention to the edit. Your post addressed my worldview and not my comment on "flawed methodology". As such, I responded in order. I wanted to be upfront, though, rather than underhanded. I type semi-stream of consciousness.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Flawed methodology.

I think you put a higher value on cultural conservatism, whereas I (for example) think it's less relevant than one's political conservatism (i.e., a Bible readin' White Southern male who loves God and country and lives a traditional lifestyle but strongly supports unions, redistributing income and regulating the free market has no business calling someone like me a RINO or liberal of any kind).  Using your (presumed) framework, I think there'd be a correlation, I do admit.

EDIT: Heavy drinker (R)

I do agree that finding a correlation would be hard in the context of this forum, as we're missing wide swaths of the population, and people have reasons beyond "traditionalism" and Christian morality to not drink. Like I said in the other thread, one could just as easily see drunks as reactionaries--imagine your college leftist bitching about drunk "fratboys" or athletes that, when drunk, objectivize women, act tribally ("far too primitive for this ultra-sophisticated male feminist!"), yaddah yaddah yaddah. I feel like one might want to point out that these characters, while left-wing, might be... "illiberal" to certain extents. Think about how Antonio is not only "conservative" about drinking, but also would be suspicious of both contemporary ("liberal") and traditional gender norms--opposed to prostitution for feminist, as opposed to, say, religious reasons, and so on. Which is why a simple conservative-liberal dichotomy has limited use.

Also, see the poster right above me.