Did anyone notice that Sanders beat Clinton in Indiana?
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« on: May 04, 2016, 03:18:06 AM »

Just curious; lots of comments about Trump, and not a peep about Sanders. Anyone care to offer their thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2016, 03:20:12 AM »

It's interesting, but will have no impact at all. Clinton's getting the nomination.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2016, 04:26:41 AM »

I'm actually disappointed and somewhat surprised. Sanders has gone full delusional over the last couple of days, completely abandoning his own principles and now looks set actually try to trip up Clinton spurred on by his radical supporters. It looks bleak and I had frankly expected some of his more sensible supporters to distance themselves from that approach and support Clinton.

Realistically, Sanders is now the main threat to Clintons chances against Trump. If he does the only reasonable thing and stops attacking her, give up the ridiculous idea of a "contested convention" and endorse her 100% at the convention, then this general election is very winnable. If he doesn't then say hi to president Trump.
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2016, 04:54:26 AM »

Merely prolongs the life support for a few more weeks.  Bernie could win every single remaining contest by 10 points, and he'd still fall nearly 200 pledged delegates short.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2016, 05:57:17 AM »

The rest of May should be pretty good for him momentum-wise. Of course, the media will be mostly talking about a Clinton-Trump GE now rather than the primaries, but he should win West Virginia pretty easily on May 10 and an Oregon win on May 17 will balance out a Kentucky loss. If I were him, I would drop out after June 7, which would be a pretty apt conclusion and nice start to the general election.
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2016, 05:58:40 AM »

I only was because last night I was at musical practice with my social studies teachers/Hillary supporter till 9
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2016, 06:15:31 AM »

The beginning of a nice swan song for our dear Bernie.  I implore him to get as many delegates as possible so his campaign can have some sway at the convention.  The less the remaining states rally around Clinton, the better.  She needs to know that she's gotta have the Sanders voters.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2016, 07:02:47 AM »

I did. I also noticed that Clinton spent yesterday campaigning in Ohio, which has already held its primary. It's over.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2016, 07:25:25 AM »
« Edited: May 04, 2016, 07:28:15 AM by DS0816 »

Just curious; lots of comments about Trump, and not a peep about Sanders. Anyone care to offer their thoughts?

It's excellent that Bernie Sanders carried Indiana.

The b.s. that has out there for some time, since at least March, is that the Democratic primaries are effectively over. No. They are still going.

The Republicans effectively have their nominee before the Democrats do.

The exit polls (especially his carriage of his party's No. 1 voting-age base, those 17/18 to 29), state after state, give Bernie Sanders one very important, compelling reason to go all the way. (Hillary losing 17/18 to 29 year olds by 4-to-1 margins, state after state, is not okay for a long-perceived party frontrunner.)
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2016, 07:46:28 AM »

The b.s. that has out there for some time, since at least March, is that the Democratic primaries are effectively over. No. They are still going.

The Republicans effectively have their nominee before the Democrats do.

They're both effectively over.

Neither Trump nor Clinton has clinched the nomination, but both obviously will by any reasonable projection of what is going to happen, barring something drastic.
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2016, 07:48:07 AM »

I agree that Sanders won Indiana, but Hillary also received many of the delegates last night.
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2016, 10:57:56 AM »

I agree that Sanders won Indiana, but Hillary also received many of the delegates last night.

Sanders gained a net of 7 or so, I believe. Pity he still trails by about 300 pledged delegates.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2016, 11:26:56 AM »

It's another win for him, and Indiana is another state that no one a year ago (or even a couple of months ago) even thought would be close. It's not going to change the fact that Hillary has the nomination locked up, but it speaks to the success of his campaign.
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2016, 11:28:18 AM »

Sanders only has a month left before his candidacy ends -I have no problems letting him have his consolation victories here and there before he inevitably folds.  
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2016, 11:32:34 AM »

At this point, his Indiana win is more of a nice trivia than anything else. And most of the focus was on the Republican side.
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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2016, 11:39:36 AM »

Just curious; lots of comments about Trump, and not a peep about Sanders. Anyone care to offer their thoughts?

Does anyone even care?  Hillary had the nomination locked up for a few weeks now. 
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2016, 11:43:03 AM »

It's about as meaningful as Hillary winning some primaries late 8 years ago.
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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2016, 12:12:43 PM »

Just curious; lots of comments about Trump, and not a peep about Sanders. Anyone care to offer their thoughts?

It's excellent that Bernie Sanders carried Indiana.
The b.s. that has out there for some time, since at least March, is that the Democratic primaries are effectively over. No. They are still going.
The Republicans effectively have their nominee before the Democrats do.

The exit polls (especially his carriage of his party's No. 1 voting-age base, those 17/18 to 29), state after state, give Bernie Sanders one very important, compelling reason to go all the way. (Hillary losing 17/18 to 29 year olds by 4-to-1 margins, state after state, is not okay for a long-perceived party frontrunner.)

But young voters still support Hillary over trump, by an almost 3-to-1 margin. Yuge !

A recent survey, conducted by the Harvard University Institute of Politics, found that in a Hillary-trump matchup ...
61% of likely voters age 18-29 say they would vote for Clinton
While just 25% would vote for trump.


Read the survey details here :
http://iop.harvard.edu/iop-now/harvard-iop-spring-2016-poll
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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2016, 12:27:57 PM »

It's about as meaningful as Hillary winning some primaries late 8 years ago.

Additionally, Hillary's last few wins in 08, as with Bernie's latest wins, are more a function of the fact that the front runner had all but conceded these last few primaries.

She spent 0$ advertising in Indiana, and will do the same in Oregon, Kentucky, West Virginia, The Dakotas, Montana, and probably California and New Jersey. She knows all she has to do is win 150-200 more delegates and she's the nominee as far as the convention is concerned. There is no way that Sanders overtakes her in pledged delegates or popular vote. She can pivot to Trump without any real fear that she'll lose the nomination. Why would she waste her time or money on Bernie now?
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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2016, 12:33:35 PM »

While Sanders did overperform the polling, the state voted exactly as how the demographics suggested it would.
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« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2016, 03:42:11 PM »

Just curious; lots of comments about Trump, and not a peep about Sanders. Anyone care to offer their thoughts?

It's excellent that Bernie Sanders carried Indiana.

The b.s. that has out there for some time, since at least March, is that the Democratic primaries are effectively over. No. They are still going.

The Republicans effectively have their nominee before the Democrats do.

The exit polls (especially his carriage of his party's No. 1 voting-age base, those 17/18 to 29), state after state, give Bernie Sanders one very important, compelling reason to go all the way. (Hillary losing 17/18 to 29 year olds by 4-to-1 margins, state after state, is not okay for a long-perceived party frontrunner.)

No, by that definition the Republicans do not have their nominee. Trump isn't at 1,237. Also by this definition, Obama wasn't the nominee until April or so of 2012.

Enough double standards. Either they are both presumptive nominees or neither one is.
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« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2016, 03:58:54 PM »

Trump doesn't have enough delegates, but how would he lose if he has no opponents?
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« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2016, 04:02:45 PM »

Sure. But before his IN win he needed 65% of the remaining pledged delegates to TIE. Now with the win he need 66% of the remaining pledged delegates to TIE. So it won't matter. No matter how much Bernie cries for attention or his supporters call for Clinton to drop out. He won't be the nominee.
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« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2016, 04:03:28 PM »

Trump doesn't have enough delegates, but how would he lose if he has no opponents?

There's still dropped out candidates on the ballot. Their chances of denying Trump enough delegates are the same as Sanders denying Clinton enough delegates. 0 = 0
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« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2016, 04:05:42 PM »

I will also like to add. Bernie spent $2 million in IN to Clinton $0 and only beat her by 5%. Bernie's return on investment has been abysmal this entire election cycle.
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