should abstinence be illegal?

[2952-0-0]

I guess that abstinence=preventing a life from appearing so maybe we should all be...well...doing what BRTD does...

[dazzleman]

and you call me a troll....

[Joe Republic]

Uhh... no.

[angus]

abstinence=preventing a life from appearing

not at all. 

http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/A/AsexualReproduction.html

[angus]

actually, there was an article in one of the free papers yesterday (I forget which one) about an organization for asexuals in the city.  it was interesting.  I have only met one bona-fide asexual in my life.  his name is bill, and he was a very nice, but neither straight nor gay, man.  apparently there are many others.  Here is a link to one organization so you can hook you up with other asexuals.  (Just so you don't think that abstinence is necessarily a choice.)

http://www.asexuality.org/home/




ah, here it is.  not in one of the free papers, but in one of the real ones:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/09/fashion/thursdaystyles/09asexual.html?8hpib

[minionofmidas]

Yes, I think everybody should be forced to have sex. Every day. With me.
Well, every beautiful female between 16 and 33, anyways.
Well, not really.

[nclib]

Enough people will still have sex so abstinence is not a problem.

[Jake]

And BRTD accepts his first apprentice

[phk]

Abstinence is an anti-lie policy.

[2952-0-0]

"ABSTINENCE IS BABY KILLING!!! YOU'RE KILLING MILLIONS OF BABIES!!! HAVE S-X 24/7 FOR JESUS..."

[TheWildCard]

Oh look another Strawman thread.

[angus]

Oh look another Strawman thread.

no, just incredibly insensitive, as it assumes abstinence/asexuality is a choice.

[opebo]

Abstinence is an anti-lie policy.

Would you mind explaining phknrocket?  I'm curious what you mean here.

[2952-0-0]

Hey guys, you don't get this. Why does life have to start at the end of the first trimester/conception/whenever? Why not when the parents first exist? By abstaining you're killing MILLIONS of kids!!!

[Alcon]

Hey guys, you don't get this. Why does life have to start at the end of the first trimester/conception/whenever? Why not when the parents first exist? By abstaining you're killing MILLIONS of kids!!!

If this was your point in the beginning, it's pretty easily refuted:

The distinction that is being made is one between something that causes an event to eventually occur and one that directly sets it in action; that is, when intercourse occurs, the process of life creation is already set into motion. Prior to intercourse, at the time of abstaining, the process has not set into motion - just the process that leads to that process.

This is actually something I thought about extensively a few years ago, and that's pretty much what I ended up coming up with. You have to draw a law somewhere.

[Platypus]

IIAJD.

[2952-0-0]

Hey guys, you don't get this. Why does life have to start at the end of the first trimester/conception/whenever? Why not when the parents first exist? By abstaining you're killing MILLIONS of kids!!!

If this was your point in the beginning, it's pretty easily refuted:

The distinction that is being made is one between something that causes an event to eventually occur and one that directly sets it in action; that is, when intercourse occurs, the process of life creation is already set into motion. Prior to intercourse, at the time of abstaining, the process has not set into motion - just the process that leads to that process.

This is actually something I thought about extensively a few years ago, and that's pretty much what I ended up coming up with. You have to draw a law somewhere.

Well, some wingnuts want to ban condoms and everything...and I told this to a friend at school (he's a hardcore Christian who goes to Sunday school) and he said that's why Jesus died for us...

[Hitchabrut]

No