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Mr. Morden
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« on: May 06, 2016, 08:43:36 AM »

Caucuses will apparently run from 10am to 8pm local time (Saturday), which is 8pm (Friday) to 6am (Saturday) US Eastern time:

https://www.facebook.com/guamdemocrats/posts/970964119677699

Post your commentary here.

CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/gu/Dem

Also, please post your thoughts on whether you think people from Guam should be called Guamis, Guamers, Guamites, or Guamanians.


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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2016, 12:24:32 PM »



Never realized how far away from the US was... I wonder, does anyone know if it's an Australia protected place or if the US still has full military defense of the island?
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2016, 01:54:26 PM »

I think this could be another win for Bernie. Lots of young voters there (median age: 29.9).
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2016, 02:09:15 PM »

I think this could be another win for Bernie. Lots of young voters there (median age: 29.9).

I'd be very surprised. Every other island territory has gone to Clinton for a reason. There's not many Democratic party members (it's a closed caucus) and like 500 people total will attend, max. Not many of *them* will be young. Guam, like most of these island territories, is also overwhelmingly black.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2016, 03:34:41 PM »
« Edited: May 06, 2016, 03:56:19 PM by cinyc »

I think this could be another win for Bernie. Lots of young voters there (median age: 29.9).

I'd be very surprised. Every other island territory has gone to Clinton for a reason. There's not many Democratic party members (it's a closed caucus) and like 500 people total will attend, max. Not many of *them* will be young. Guam, like most of these island territories, is also overwhelmingly black.

Guam is not overwhelmingly black.  The two largest racial groups are Pacific Islander (mainly Chamorro) and Asian (largely Filipino).  

It will go to Clinton, though.  I think they are directly electing 7 delegates, and while 10 potential candidates have pledged support to Clinton, only 5 have pledged support to Sanders.  More from the Guam Pacific Daily News here.

To answer the question in the original post, the correct term is Guamanian.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2016, 03:42:09 PM »

Where the Guamanians live on the island of Guam, by town, 2010.  From the U.S. Census Bureau:

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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2016, 03:44:30 PM »

Never realized how far away from the US was... I wonder, does anyone know if it's an Australia protected place or if the US still has full military defense of the island?

Guam is a very strategically located U.S. territory, protected by the U.S. military.  There are Air Force and Naval bases on the island.
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2016, 04:21:07 PM »

Does anybody know if Hillary or Bernie has campaigned in Guam?
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2016, 04:51:28 PM »

A few days ago some reporter on MSNBC (I think) mentioned in passing that Clinton spent $50k on Guam.  He was making the point that her campaign was still working to maximize delegates and hadn't totally pivoted to the general.  Not sure what they spent it on or if Sanders spent anything.
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2016, 04:55:22 PM »

A few days ago some reporter on MSNBC (I think) mentioned in passing that Clinton spent $50k on Guam.  He was making the point that her campaign was still working to maximize delegates and hadn't totally pivoted to the general.  Not sure what they spent it on or if Sanders spent anything.

If true, that would be completely nonsensical. 50k in Guam and $0 in Indiana?
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2016, 05:21:39 PM »

A few days ago some reporter on MSNBC (I think) mentioned in passing that Clinton spent $50k on Guam.  He was making the point that her campaign was still working to maximize delegates and hadn't totally pivoted to the general.  Not sure what they spent it on or if Sanders spent anything.

If true, that would be completely nonsensical. 50k in Guam and $0 in Indiana?

$50K in Guam is a much better investment.  It would have taken a couple million to move the needle in Indiana, $50K in Guam has the potential of flipping the race.
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2016, 05:28:58 PM »
« Edited: May 06, 2016, 05:32:54 PM by cinyc »

Does anybody know if Hillary or Bernie has campaigned in Guam?

Chelsea Clinton "wrote" an op-ed for the territory's newspaper, telling voters to vote for her mom.  The newspaper also ran an op-ed from a Guamanian Bernie supporter in the past few days.

Sanders and the political director for Hillary Clinton's campaign were interviewed by Guam's NBC affiliate, KUAM, this week.

Here is the sample Guam Democratic caucus ballot.
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2016, 05:47:17 PM »

A few days ago some reporter on MSNBC (I think) mentioned in passing that Clinton spent $50k on Guam.  He was making the point that her campaign was still working to maximize delegates and hadn't totally pivoted to the general.  Not sure what they spent it on or if Sanders spent anything.

If true, that would be completely nonsensical. 50k in Guam and $0 in Indiana?

$50K in Guam is a much better investment.  It would have taken a couple million to move the needle in Indiana, $50K in Guam has the potential of flipping the race.

Guam has 7 delegates. I doubt anyone will care.
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2016, 05:59:56 PM »

I'd call them Chamorri.
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2016, 06:20:46 PM »


The problem with that is that it mischaracterizes the roughly 63% of Guam's population that isn't Chamorro.

I found Census' race files for Guam (stats for all the territories but Puerto Rico are pretty well hidden on Census' website).  As of 2010, Guam was:

49.3% Pacific Islander/Native Hawaiian
32.2% Asian
7.1% White
1.0% Black
0.8% Hispanic
0.3% Other Race/Ethnicity
9.4% Two or More Races
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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2016, 09:40:17 PM »

Caucusing is going on now.  Here's a Clinton supporter at the caucus site:


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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2016, 09:53:31 PM »

Caucusing is going on now.  Here's a Clinton supporter at the caucus site:




Yes, the caucus is being held at the Agana Shopping Center mall.
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2016, 10:32:48 PM »

Also, please post your thoughts on whether you think people from Guam should be called Guamis, Guamers, Guamites, or Guamanians.

In Ostricha they say Guaxicans,
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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2016, 10:35:54 PM »

Also, please post your thoughts on whether you think people from Guam should be called Guamis, Guamers, Guamites, or Guamanians.

In Ostricha they say Guaxicans,

What about the Guamish?
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2016, 11:06:54 PM »

Also, please post your thoughts on whether you think people from Guam should be called Guamis, Guamers, Guamites, or Guamanians.

In Ostricha they say Guaxicans,

What about the Guamish?

The Guamish don't vote.
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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2016, 11:40:57 PM »

Another pic of the caucus, this time from a Sanders supporter:


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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2016, 11:55:31 PM »

I'm not at all trying to be offensive, I am genuinely curious: what are some reasons why a white man/white person (as can be seen in the above photo posted by mr morden) would be living in guam?
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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2016, 11:59:31 PM »

Another pic of the caucus, this time from a Sanders supporter:




Man, the Bernie voters keep getting younger and younger.
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2016, 12:16:21 AM »

I'm not at all trying to be offensive, I am genuinely curious: what are some reasons why a white man/white person (as can be seen in the above photo posted by mr morden) would be living in guam?

Military?
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2016, 12:38:17 AM »

I'm not at all trying to be offensive, I am genuinely curious: what are some reasons why a white man/white person (as can be seen in the above photo posted by mr morden) would be living in guam?

Military?

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