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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2016, 12:39:51 AM »

A few days ago some reporter on MSNBC (I think) mentioned in passing that Clinton spent $50k on Guam.  He was making the point that her campaign was still working to maximize delegates and hadn't totally pivoted to the general.  Not sure what they spent it on or if Sanders spent anything.

If true, that would be completely nonsensical. 50k in Guam and $0 in Indiana?

Clinton spent $0 in Indiana? Huh
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2016, 12:42:52 AM »

Also, please post your thoughts on whether you think people from Guam should be called Guamis, Guamers, Guamites, or Guamanians.

Sure as hell ain't Guamerican.
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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2016, 12:44:20 AM »

A few days ago some reporter on MSNBC (I think) mentioned in passing that Clinton spent $50k on Guam.  He was making the point that her campaign was still working to maximize delegates and hadn't totally pivoted to the general.  Not sure what they spent it on or if Sanders spent anything.

If true, that would be completely nonsensical. 50k in Guam and $0 in Indiana?

Clinton spent $0 in Indiana? Huh

I don't think she's spending any money on May primaries.
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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2016, 12:46:34 AM »

A few days ago some reporter on MSNBC (I think) mentioned in passing that Clinton spent $50k on Guam.  He was making the point that her campaign was still working to maximize delegates and hadn't totally pivoted to the general.  Not sure what they spent it on or if Sanders spent anything.

If true, that would be completely nonsensical. 50k in Guam and $0 in Indiana?

Clinton spent $0 in Indiana? Huh

I'm sure she had staff and campaign offices in Indiana, but she didn't buy any media.
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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2016, 06:19:05 AM »

Polls are closed, and they're counting the votes:

https://twitter.com/jserves/status/728900296106119169
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« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2016, 06:47:26 AM »

Don't have results yet, but looks like ~1400 votes were cast:

https://twitter.com/jserves/status/728910826405404672
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« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2016, 06:55:03 AM »


Thats a big from the 4500 votes in 2008.
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« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2016, 07:09:52 AM »

Looking like the 2-1 Hillary victory I figured it would be.
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« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2016, 07:11:15 AM »

This guy is posting the results a piece at a time, and from the first ~200 votes or so, Clinton leads by about a 2-1 margin:

https://twitter.com/jserves
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« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2016, 07:16:19 AM »

Oh, wow. Yeah, I guess that gives her all of the territories, as PR and USVI are about as safe for Clinton as you can get.

But the question is - why? Hawaii and most of the Pacific countries that voted in the Democrats Abroad caucuses all voted for Sanders, so why would the Pacific territories support Clinton by such a margin?
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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2016, 08:11:01 AM »

Oh, wow. Yeah, I guess that gives her all of the territories, as PR and USVI are about as safe for Clinton as you can get.

But the question is - why? Hawaii and most of the Pacific countries that voted in the Democrats Abroad caucuses all voted for Sanders, so why would the Pacific territories support Clinton by such a margin?

If you count Democrats Abroad as an overseas, non-state constituency, then Sanders did not get shut out in these types of elections. However PR and the Virgin Islands will go to her by large margins. PR is actually almost as important as Oregon in a Dem primary (PR 60 delegates, Oregon 61)
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« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2016, 08:48:06 AM »

Another update with about 400 ballots left to count since there were approximately 1400 votes cast:

https://twitter.com/jserves/status/728943312132939776

HRC 596, BS 422
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« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2016, 08:54:37 AM »

Another update with about 400 ballots left to count since there were approximately 1400 votes cast:

https://twitter.com/jserves/status/728943312132939776

HRC 596, BS 422

Looks like it will be a 4-3 Delegate split.
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« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2016, 08:56:10 AM »

Another update with about 400 ballots left to count since there were approximately 1400 votes cast:

https://twitter.com/jserves/status/728943312132939776

HRC 596, BS 422

Looks like it will be a 4-3 Delegate split.

Tim Robbins might have cost Bernie a delegate
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« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2016, 09:21:53 AM »

https://twitter.com/jserves/status/728951698991947781

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« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2016, 09:28:01 AM »

James Servino ‏@jserves  2m2 minutes ago Hagåtña, GU
#GuamCaucus #Guam Curbside & absentee1-3) @hillaryclinton 21 & @berniesanders 3
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« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2016, 09:30:47 AM »

James Servino ‏@jserves  2m2 minutes ago Hagåtña, GU
#GuamCaucus #Guam Curbside & absentee1-3) @hillaryclinton 21 & @berniesanders 3

Since I believe a candidate has to win 64.2% to get a 5-2 split here, there are not enough votes remaining for her to get the 5th delegate.

Almost confirmed as a 4-3 split now and she will win with around 60%
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« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2016, 09:34:08 AM »

James Servino ‏@jserves  2m2 minutes ago Hagåtña, GU
Unofficial #GuamCaucus results @HillaryClinton 60% @SenSanders 40%
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« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2016, 10:50:11 AM »

Also, please post your thoughts on whether you think people from Guam should be called Guamis, Guamers, Guamites, or Guamanians.

Sure as hell ain't Guamerican.

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« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2016, 12:34:53 PM »

Wasn't Guam directly electing delegates, too?  Which matters for the Democrats, then?  Who won the beauty contest vote or which delegates won the most votes?
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« Reply #45 on: May 07, 2016, 12:39:14 PM »

Wasn't Guam directly electing delegates, too?  Which matters for the Democrats, then?  Who won the beauty contest vote or which delegates won the most votes?

As with all Democratic contests, the beauty contest is what matters.
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« Reply #46 on: May 07, 2016, 12:42:10 PM »

Wasn't Guam directly electing delegates, too?  Which matters for the Democrats, then?  Who won the beauty contest vote or which delegates won the most votes?

It sounds like the specifics of exactly who will be delegates haven't been ironed out yet?

https://twitter.com/jserves/status/728964766719352833

It's almost 4 am in Guam so we're probably not going to find out for a while.
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« Reply #47 on: May 07, 2016, 12:49:41 PM »

Wasn't Guam directly electing delegates, too?  Which matters for the Democrats, then?  Who won the beauty contest vote or which delegates won the most votes?

As with all Democratic contests, the beauty contest is what matters.

So what happens if 7 Clinton-supporting delegates win the delegate contest?  Do 3 have to agree to support Sanders on the first ballot or not go to the convention?
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« Reply #48 on: May 07, 2016, 12:57:03 PM »

Wasn't Guam directly electing delegates, too?  Which matters for the Democrats, then?  Who won the beauty contest vote or which delegates won the most votes?

As with all Democratic contests, the beauty contest is what matters.

So what happens if 7 Clinton-supporting delegates win the delegate contest?  Do 3 have to agree to support Sanders on the first ballot or not go to the convention?

I believe the 4 Clinton Supporters with the highest vote totals and the top 3 Sanders supporters  will be the delegates. As a rule Democratic candidates have much more say on who their actual delegates are than Republican candidates.
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« Reply #49 on: May 07, 2016, 02:18:58 PM »


Clearly Democrats are bound to lose Guam in the general election due to this pitiful turnout.
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