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« on: May 09, 2016, 02:48:18 PM »

how would the electoral map look like?

Ben Sasse, Clinton, Trump
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2016, 02:55:18 PM »

It may actually help Trump, with splitting anti-Trump votes. Sasse would probably end up around 5% in the very best scenario, but that may have effect in several crucial states.

The only state I could see him winning is Utah. Of course his career would be over after that.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2016, 03:09:05 PM »



Mr. Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Former Senator Scott Brown (R-MA) - 268 EV (48%)
Former SoS Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 260 EV (46%)
Senator Ben Sasse (I-NE)/Former Senator Tom Coburn (I-OK) - 10 EV (5%) ✓
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2016, 03:11:00 PM »



Mr. Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Former Senator Scott Brown (R-MA) - 268 EV (48%)
Former SoS Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 260 EV (46%)
Senator Ben Sasse (I-NE)/Former Senator Tom Coburn (I-OK) - 10 EV (5%) ✓
such a situation would cause an uproar and a demand for trump to win
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2016, 03:18:09 PM »



Mr. Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Former Senator Scott Brown (R-MA) - 268 EV (48%)
Former SoS Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 260 EV (46%)
Senator Ben Sasse (I-NE)/Former Senator Tom Coburn (I-OK) - 10 EV (5%) ✓
such a situation would cause an uproar and a demand for trump to win

Any scenario where Trump doesn't win is going to lead to the orange fascist calling for violence, he's made that quite clear. Actual votes are irrelevant.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2016, 04:05:45 PM »

Clinton would win in a landslide, let's not kid ourselves.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2016, 04:32:33 PM »

I'll make a map later, but:

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2016, 04:35:53 PM »

Sasse would be a terrible 3rd party candidate, he has no name ID, little experience, no money to self fund.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2016, 07:02:14 PM »

Virtually identical to a pure Trump v. Clinton map.   There is no 3rd party guy who I feel could flip a state.
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2016, 07:12:59 PM »

Sasse would be a terrible 3rd party candidate, he has no name ID, little experience, no money to self fund.

Any Republican member of Congress deciding to run 3rd party against both Trump and Clinton would of course generate plenty of media coverage.  His current name ID doesn't matter.

I mean he'd still lose badly, of course.  But "Name ID" isn't an issue in a scenario like this.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2016, 07:32:29 PM »

I'm likely going to be doing a thread on this sometime soon, and probably multiple times before November, but can we please drop the fantasy that PA is a swing state in this election?
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2016, 07:41:03 PM »

I think for a third party candidacy to legitimately pick up steam outside of  the media (I'll call that Jon Huntsman syndrome) they would have to be known. Mitt Romney is an example of someone who could do that.
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2016, 07:51:03 PM »

I think for a third party candidacy to legitimately pick up steam outside of  the media (I'll call that Jon Huntsman syndrome) they would have to be known. Mitt Romney is an example of someone who could do that.

Again, any current Republican member of Congress who's reasonably well liked by the elites pining for a #NeverTrump candidate to rally around--anyone like that who actually decides to pull the trigger and run--it would be a big news story.  So even if they're not known now, they'd become pretty well known rather quickly.  It doesn't really matter what their *current* name ID is.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2016, 12:28:34 AM »


276: Donald Trump/Erik Paulsen(45.6%)
242: Hillary Clinton/Ronald Kind(40.4%)
20: Benjamin Sasse/Mia Love(13.6%)
Others: 0.4%
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2016, 12:53:00 AM »



Something like this.
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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2016, 12:53:28 AM »


The promised map:



Clinton/Becerra 48.6% 362 EVs
Trump/Sessions 40.7%  162 EVs
Sasse/Love 8.1% 14 EVs
Johnson/Who Knows 1.5% 0 EVs
Stein/Who Cares 0.8% 0 EVs


Sasse won't be on the ballot in Texas and South Dakota.

Trump will barely break double digits in Utah, placing third. Sasse gets second in Wyoming and NE-2. North Dakota was tricky. It could potentially go for anyone, I think. It's a pity that there isn't a popular vote for the caucuses that I could've used. MT would probably be Johnson's best state this time. I think he could break 5% there and potentially in NM and AK as well.

Sasse tips the scales for Hillary in FL, NC, AZ, and MT.

No idea about running mates. Xavier Becerra would be good for Clinton. Not sure who would be good for Trump and who would accept. Maybe Jeff Sessions? Mia Love wouldn't be a bad pick for Sasse (thanks for that idea, Kingpoleon).
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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2016, 03:17:17 AM »



Clinton 359 (48%) - Trump 173 (42%) - Sasse 6 (7%)
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2016, 03:20:45 AM »



Clinton 359 (48%) - Trump 173 (42%) - Sasse 6 (7%)
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