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« on: May 10, 2016, 04:29:27 AM »
« edited: May 10, 2016, 05:11:36 AM by Vox Populi »

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/10/us/attack-on-state-senate-candidate-overshadows-west-virginia-vote.html?_r=0

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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2016, 05:06:56 AM »

State Senate candidate, not State Senator.
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2016, 03:09:37 PM »

This will soon be the fate of all WV Democrats. I recommend all of them get out of that hellhole while they still can.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2016, 03:14:29 PM »

See why us Democrats are perfectly content conceding WV to the Republicans?
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2016, 03:28:46 PM »
« Edited: May 10, 2016, 03:32:38 PM by IceSpear »

I hope if Hillary wins we can make West Virginia our new nuclear waste disposal area. It's certainly more deserving than poor Yucca Mountain. We can rename it Waste Virginia.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2016, 04:14:31 PM »

I hope if Hillary wins we can make West Virginia our new nuclear waste disposal area. It's certainly more deserving than poor Yucca Mountain. We can rename it Waste Virginia.

If the Democrats are serious about claiming any degree of moral superiority over the Republicans at all, this cannot be the party's attitude towards any part of the country, regardless of how much reason there is to dislike the people living there. The American left cannot turn into Margaret Thatcher deliberately pursuing policies that will hurt unsympathetic demographics and justifying it with 'they are not our people'. It is neither morally justifiable nor, in the final analysis, politically efficacious.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2016, 04:40:58 PM »

A candidate gets viciously attacked, and all you can talk about is how horrible West Virginia is?
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2016, 04:47:14 PM »

A candidate gets viciously attacked, and all you can talk about is how horrible West Virginia is?

West Virginia is the new Oklahoma on here. Just watch, its going to get worse.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2016, 05:19:05 PM »

I hope if Hillary wins we can make West Virginia our new nuclear waste disposal area. It's certainly more deserving than poor Yucca Mountain. We can rename it Waste Virginia.

If the Democrats are serious about claiming any degree of moral superiority over the Republicans at all, this cannot be the party's attitude towards any part of the country, regardless of how much reason there is to dislike the people living there. The American left cannot turn into Margaret Thatcher deliberately pursuing policies that will hurt unsympathetic demographics and justifying it with 'they are not our people'. It is neither morally justifiable nor, in the final analysis, politically efficacious.

Well, they (WV) hates Hillary but her "Marshall Plan" for WV is their only real hope.  They love Trump but there's nothing he can do to stop Appalachian natural gas from burying Appalachian coal.  It's a pickle. 
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2016, 05:21:23 PM »

I hope if Hillary wins we can make West Virginia our new nuclear waste disposal area. It's certainly more deserving than poor Yucca Mountain. We can rename it Waste Virginia.

If the Democrats are serious about claiming any degree of moral superiority over the Republicans at all, this cannot be the party's attitude towards any part of the country, regardless of how much reason there is to dislike the people living there. The American left cannot turn into Margaret Thatcher deliberately pursuing policies that will hurt unsympathetic demographics and justifying it with 'they are not our people'. It is neither morally justifiable nor, in the final analysis, politically efficacious.

Well, they (WV) hates Hillary but her "Marshall Plan" for WV is their only real hope.  They love Trump but there's nothing he can do to stop Appalachian natural gas from burying Appalachian coal.  It's a pickle. 

I mean, obviously they're reflexively voting in profoundly self-destructive ways, but that's no excuse to deliberately make things worse for them like IceSpear is suggesting. (I know there's a distinct possibility that he's not serious, but given his general opinion of poor whites, Poe's law is very much in effect.)
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2016, 05:59:35 PM »

I hope if Hillary wins we can make West Virginia our new nuclear waste disposal area. It's certainly more deserving than poor Yucca Mountain. We can rename it Waste Virginia.

If the Democrats are serious about claiming any degree of moral superiority over the Republicans at all, this cannot be the party's attitude towards any part of the country, regardless of how much reason there is to dislike the people living there. The American left cannot turn into Margaret Thatcher deliberately pursuing policies that will hurt unsympathetic demographics and justifying it with 'they are not our people'. It is neither morally justifiable nor, in the final analysis, politically efficacious.

Well, they (WV) hates Hillary but her "Marshall Plan" for WV is their only real hope.  They love Trump but there's nothing he can do to stop Appalachian natural gas from burying Appalachian coal.  It's a pickle. 

I mean, obviously they're reflexively voting in profoundly self-destructive ways, but that's no excuse to deliberately make things worse for them like IceSpear is suggesting. (I know there's a distinct possibility that he's not serious, but given his general opinion of poor whites, Poe's law is very much in effect.)

Well, great.  I guess the next thing your gonna tell me is that we can't build that wall around WV like we should.

I'm kind of torn on what to do with WV.  From a purely technocratic view, it's a horrible place to try to put people.  The infrastructure is difficult and expensive to maintain.  Over the decades, numerous communities have been abandoned back to nature as their economic viability faded when the coal ran out.  There are many now that don't justify saving.  Detroit seems easy by comparison.  Not going to convince people to move is in their best interest (unless they make that choice on their own).  Money for retraining is a no brainer for displace workers in many industries.  Spending money on communities that aren't  particularly viable is much more iffy (and keep in mind I type from New Orleans).  Retraining would be worthless without relocating.  Back to the pickle and people who already show a rather strong self-destructive streak.
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2016, 06:26:33 PM »

I hope if Hillary wins we can make West Virginia our new nuclear waste disposal area. It's certainly more deserving than poor Yucca Mountain. We can rename it Waste Virginia.

If the Democrats are serious about claiming any degree of moral superiority over the Republicans at all, this cannot be the party's attitude towards any part of the country, regardless of how much reason there is to dislike the people living there. The American left cannot turn into Margaret Thatcher deliberately pursuing policies that will hurt unsympathetic demographics and justifying it with 'they are not our people'. It is neither morally justifiable nor, in the final analysis, politically efficacious.

Way too late.  Most liberals on here are obsessed with what they believe being a liberal/Democrat says about them.
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2016, 06:35:33 PM »


Okay.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2016, 08:01:22 PM »

A candidate gets viciously attacked, and all you can talk about is how horrible West Virginia is?

West Virginia is the new Oklahoma on here. Just watch, its going to get worse.

And then people are wondering why Democrats get crushed among White voters lol

No one cares.
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2016, 10:02:48 PM »

A candidate gets viciously attacked, and all you can talk about is how horrible West Virginia is?

West Virginia is the new Oklahoma on here. Just watch, its going to get worse.

And then people are wondering why Democrats get crushed among White voters lol

No one cares.

Well, good luck ever winning Congress back without White voters.

No one cares.
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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2016, 10:14:34 PM »

A candidate gets viciously attacked, and all you can talk about is how horrible West Virginia is?

West Virginia is the new Oklahoma on here. Just watch, its going to get worse.

And then people are wondering why Democrats get crushed among White voters lol

No one cares.

Well, good luck ever winning Congress back without White voters.

No one cares.

Why get enough elected officials to enact policy you care about when you could keep talking about how elite and awesome your coalition is??  LOL.
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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2016, 12:05:19 AM »

The candidate who got beaten up just won in a landslide.
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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2016, 12:19:55 AM »

I hope if Hillary wins we can make West Virginia our new nuclear waste disposal area. It's certainly more deserving than poor Yucca Mountain. We can rename it Waste Virginia.

If the Democrats are serious about claiming any degree of moral superiority over the Republicans at all, this cannot be the party's attitude towards any part of the country, regardless of how much reason there is to dislike the people living there. The American left cannot turn into Margaret Thatcher deliberately pursuing policies that will hurt unsympathetic demographics and justifying it with 'they are not our people'. It is neither morally justifiable nor, in the final analysis, politically efficacious.

Well, they (WV) hates Hillary but her "Marshall Plan" for WV is their only real hope.  They love Trump but there's nothing he can do to stop Appalachian natural gas from burying Appalachian coal.  It's a pickle. 

I mean, obviously they're reflexively voting in profoundly self-destructive ways, but that's no excuse to deliberately make things worse for them like IceSpear is suggesting. (I know there's a distinct possibility that he's not serious, but given his general opinion of poor whites, Poe's law is very much in effect.)

Yes, I'm genuinely advocating giving radiation poisoning to two million people, including children. You caught me.
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2016, 12:21:07 AM »

A candidate gets viciously attacked, and all you can talk about is how horrible West Virginia is?

West Virginia is the new Oklahoma on here. Just watch, its going to get worse.

And then people are wondering why Democrats get crushed among White voters lol

No one cares.

Well, good luck ever winning Congress back without White voters.

No one cares.

Why get enough elected officials to enact policy you care about when you could keep talking about how elite and awesome your coalition is??  LOL.

Man, West Virginia really gets you in a tizzy, doesn't it? Don't be so obsessed! You guys can have them, we're not taking them back. Wink
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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2016, 12:28:17 AM »

I want West Virginia back.
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« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2016, 12:33:33 AM »

Let's add West Virginia to the list of things Atlas should never be allowed to talk about.
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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2016, 12:37:18 AM »

Let's add West Virginia to the list of things Atlas should never be allowed to talk about.

West Virginia.
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« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2016, 05:02:49 PM »

I hope if Hillary wins we can make West Virginia our new nuclear waste disposal area. It's certainly more deserving than poor Yucca Mountain. We can rename it Waste Virginia.

If the Democrats are serious about claiming any degree of moral superiority over the Republicans at all, this cannot be the party's attitude towards any part of the country, regardless of how much reason there is to dislike the people living there. The American left cannot turn into Margaret Thatcher deliberately pursuing policies that will hurt unsympathetic demographics and justifying it with 'they are not our people'. It is neither morally justifiable nor, in the final analysis, politically efficacious.

Nathan is usually spot on.
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« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2016, 05:24:41 PM »

Why get enough elected officials to enact policy you care about when you could keep talking about how elite and awesome your coalition is??  LOL.

Hey, I mean it's good for Republicans. With that attitude, Democrats will be staring into oblivion at the congressional and statewide level for a very long time. Smiley

Republicans are clearly doomed as well, because they don't attempt to appeal to Vermont socialists and Bay Area hippies.
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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2016, 07:32:04 PM »

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