The Sword of Damocles - (Sign Up Thread) - Closed, 2017 Game Next

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Signing in for the Ottoman Empire! XD

I'd go as Enver Pasha.

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Thinking about post-Austria-Hungary, I think one thing would be interesting: either two loosely federal states or two camps fighting for leading position in the region.

Also, I think Galicia would probably join the Kingdom of Poland with Austria collapsing. Germans would probably allow this, so Poles wouldn't be bothering them about their part, lol.

As of Crimea, I'm obviously reluctant to surrender this, but I'm open for challenges.

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And, after doing recently some reading on the Romanovs and Rasputin, I love the idea of "Yusupov state" XD

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The Yusopov I envisage would DEFINITELY be up for playing all sides and being some kind of loose Turkish vassal in the Crimea, if that appeals...

I was sceptical because of Tarats, BUT he was of a very prominent Tatar origin after all. We may assume there's no more viable heir to the Khanate.

If you have any details, please PM me.

EDIT: Garlan can go ahead with his plan.

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Man, post-AH and the Balkans are going to be interesting.

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I believe one could apply such model to Ottoman's "satelites" as well. IIRC it was Bulgaria, Armenia and Crimea, though the latter is playable now. I imagine Ottomans expanding some influence in the Caucasus due to Russia breakup.

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So, just to clarify, I shall be Enver Pasha, oficially just a Minister of War and acting* Commander-in-Chief. Unoficially, of course, I'm the leader of military government.

* ^{Yes, Sultan is a formal C-in-C}

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Some of what has been proposed will be implemented, but as puppet states there will still be opposition and varied levels of discontent to German and Ottoman control (so yeah, Eastern Europe and the Middle East won't be chaotic, but it won't be a silent area either).

I don't expect everything being easy

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Hungary would probably be an independent Kingdom. Austria is a bit tricky. It would be hard to explain it wasn't annexed given no post-WWI treaties prohibiting it.

Could be simply Austrian Kingdom, still rules by the Habsburgs to preclude outright German annexation. Hungary could be rules by another branch of the dynasty (and the two may actually dislike each other).

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I suppouse Abdülmecid II would be now a decorative Sultan-Caliph.

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I think we may have overlooked Sevastopol issue. It remained a Russian enclave after Snowstalker lost Crimea, but now with Russia breaking up, at least partialy, I don't suppouse it remained as such.

I see three interesting possibilities:
1. Ottoman territory
2. Incorporated into Crimea
3. City-state, either vassal or somehow independent

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Sebastopol will be the capital of Yusupov's state. That said, his presence there is a blatant breach of an international treaty, so expect it to be an issue in the game.

I suspect there's still Ottoman military presence in the Crimea, especially naval bases (it appears that we're not, by pure deflaut, major naval power in the Black Sea).

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Great job, though I believe Bulgaria has been partioned last time.

Russia... itr's just great XD

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Bulgaria recovered its lands on a previous incident on the late 1910's. Sadly, it's not an Ottoman Puppet anymore, xD (Greece is not an Italian vassal either, all because of balance)

OK, thanks for an explanation.

(am I left without any puppets? )

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Bulgaria recovered its lands on a previous incident on the late 1910's. Sadly, it's not an Ottoman Puppet anymore, xD (Greece is not an Italian vassal either, all because of balance)

OK, thanks for an explanation.

(am I left without any puppets? )

Just Crimea, I gave you annexed Armenia and Northern Persia (as you said you planned to go for that) to compensate. There's still ample room for the Ottomans to expand, although be warned, there's going to be a lot of ethnic strife (same goes for Germany, their current empire is very large, but it's going to be hard to maintain).

Well, I have to deal with this. I see some new states in the Caucasus, so... we'll see.

Btw, what happened to Ottoman port on Morocco Atlantic coast? I suppouse Ottomans would be very keen on keeping it in peace treaty.

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By the way Lumine,
I think France would have lost much more colonies after a defeat with Germany, but that's your call.

They did lose virtually everything, they got to keep Algeria and Northern Africa because defeat was not total and the British were able to put pressure to prevent further loss. Who will you play as, by the way?

Update: World building is growing large, so I can adventure we'll have several threads for this (perhaps by continents). Chances are I'll put a NO WAR rule among players for the first few turns so we can balance things out and let the scenario grow.

If the game was being played during the 1880's, I would have said Georges Boulanger, and if it was during the 1930's, François de La Rocque, but there wasn't any "major rightwing fascist populist" during this period of the game. So I think that should be a fictional fascist guy or something like that.

Is it going to be a Republic or a monarchy?

I believe you could have de La Rocque rising to prominence earlier.

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My beautiful Russia!

You can blame Snowstalker for that.

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My beautiful Russia!

You can blame Snowstalker for that.

^^^^
Only Oldiesfreak was a worst player than him...

Challenge accepted.

I doubt that'd be possible.

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I can't wait to see info about other Russian states!

Russia now settled, Kerensky-led Provisional Government with young Alexei II as constitutional monarch.

So we've butterflied away his hemophilia?

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I can't wait to see info about other Russian states!

Russia now settled, Kerensky-led Provisional Government with young Alexei II as constitutional monarch.

So we've butterflied away his hemophilia?

Indeed, we did that in the original game if you remember. He was born earlier as well, so he is not the Alexei we know.

Remember when we've been spreading rumours he was illegitimate, and then I've recognized him as rightful Tsar to annoy Snowstalker?

Those were days.

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Japan's being prepared too. Southern Gothic hasn't been online since the 13, so still nothing on Italy.

Well, with "no-war for few first turns" rule, I suppouse we may leave some nations unplayable for a while rather than getting stucked at the very start.

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Damn, I'm excited.

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Damn, I'm excited.

Good to hear!

Although when the players say that in these games (or the ASOIAF ones) it usually ends in genocide, xD

I was trying not to be too genocidal last time, remember?

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Damn, I'm excited.

Good to hear!

Although when the players say that in these games (or the ASOIAF ones) it usually ends in genocide, xD

I was trying not to be too genocidal last time, remember?

True, but in my defence, it would have been kind of hard to top the historical Red Sultan... (although Cranberry and Snowstalker engaged or caused genocide as well)

There's one thing I'll miss about Snowstalker's participation: his long-winded rants about Teutons.

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To be fair, I miss most (if not all) of the old players in different ways. For example, Clarence playing McKinley as a an imperialistic power-hungry maniac really added a lot to BoP I, the game wouldn't have been as nearly as fun without that.

Don't forget Ernest's guest star as William J. Bryan!

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To be fair, I miss most (if not all) of the old players in different ways. For example, Clarence playing McKinley as a an imperialistic power-hungry maniac really added a lot to BoP I, the game wouldn't have been as nearly as fun without that.

Don't forget Ernest's guest star as William J. Bryan!

Ernest really helped to add depth into the US, either with Bryan and Alexander Monroe Dockery.

The more I think about it, I believe Balance of Power I was truly my masterpiece, even more so than the ASOIAF games. It was overwhelming at times, but I learned a lot and I think all the players had a lot of fun there.

I never had more fun in any game. Word.