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« on: May 11, 2016, 06:23:31 AM »

Per Ben Domenech, publisher of The Federalist, speaking with Megyn Kelly on May 10th:

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Does Mr. Domenech have a point regarding Clinton being the candidate of the status quo? And if so, doesn't she want to make the case that she's not the status quo candidate, and that she's actually forward looking?
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2016, 06:35:52 AM »

Of course.

Look, when 57% of Americans want a President with views opposite the current President, when 7 out of 10 Americans say the country is on the wrong track, clearly Hillary Clinton is in a tough position.

If she wins, it will be in spite of her negatives and the national mood.
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2016, 06:54:40 AM »

Of course.

Look, when 57% of Americans want a President with views opposite the current President, when 7 out of 10 Americans say the country is on the wrong track, clearly Hillary Clinton is in a tough position.

If she wins, it will be in spite of her negatives and the national mood.
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2016, 06:55:48 AM »

Of course.

Look, when 57% of Americans want a President with views opposite the current President, when 7 out of 10 Americans say the country is on the wrong track, clearly Hillary Clinton is in a tough position.

If she wins, it will be in spite of her negatives and the national mood.
that doesn't necessarily mean they'd prefer fascism
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2016, 07:02:38 AM »

Of course.

Look, when 57% of Americans want a President with views opposite the current President, when 7 out of 10 Americans say the country is on the wrong track, clearly Hillary Clinton is in a tough position.

If she wins, it will be in spite of her negatives and the national mood.

Why, then, are so many operating in support of a candidate running as the Obama third term? Yes, she's going to be the Democratic nominee despite being a terrible campaigner and having what even her most ardent supporters acknowledge as trustworthiness issues. I fail to see where this is going to be the cake walk that many Democrats would like us to believe.
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2016, 07:10:24 AM »

Obama is currently enjoying a net positive approval rating for the first time in three years. Faced with Trump as the challenger, running for a de facto third Obama term doesn't seem like a bad strategy.
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2016, 07:11:57 AM »

Of course.

Look, when 57% of Americans want a President with views opposite the current President, when 7 out of 10 Americans say the country is on the wrong track, clearly Hillary Clinton is in a tough position.

If she wins, it will be in spite of her negatives and the national mood.

Those 57% just disagree on what opposite views mean. Tongue

Of course.

Look, when 57% of Americans want a President with views opposite the current President, when 7 out of 10 Americans say the country is on the wrong track, clearly Hillary Clinton is in a tough position.

If she wins, it will be in spite of her negatives and the national mood.

Why, then, are so many operating in support of a candidate running as the Obama third term? Yes, she's going to be the Democratic nominee despite being a terrible campaigner and having what even her most ardent supporters acknowledge as trustworthiness issues. I fail to see where this is going to be the cake walk that many Democrats would like us to believe.

Lots of people don't even vote on the issues.
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2016, 07:17:27 AM »

Of course.

Look, when 57% of Americans want a President with views opposite the current President, when 7 out of 10 Americans say the country is on the wrong track, clearly Hillary Clinton is in a tough position.

If she wins, it will be in spite of her negatives and the national mood.

This, although it's fair to point out that a good chunk of that 57% and 70% (if those numbers are even right) are Sandernistas that will still want her over Trump.
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2016, 02:07:18 PM »

Of course.

Look, when 57% of Americans want a President with views opposite the current President, when 7 out of 10 Americans say the country is on the wrong track, clearly Hillary Clinton is in a tough position.

If she wins, it will be in spite of her negatives and the national mood.
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2016, 02:11:36 PM »

What most Americans want is a conservatism that represents a minimum of change.  What most Americans want, when you push them on it, is for tomorrow to be exactly like today, or as close to it as possible.  This is the desire of most Americans in NORMAL circumstances.

This is not the mood of many of the Trump supporters, but it is very much the mood of most of Hillary's supporters and most of the Establishment Republcans (and even of some Movement Conservatives).  I think it explains a lot of why politics has crystallized as it has.
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2016, 02:19:08 PM »

Yes, Clinton is the status quo candidate.  No, this isn't really a problem. 

In part this is because while a majority think the country is going down the wrong track, some of these people want the country to be more liberal, while others want it to be more conservative.  Obama is currently at a net positive approval (and gallup currently has him a a +8 approval).

What's bringing Clinton down at this point isn't a dislike of the status quo.  Its a dislike for Clinton herself.  Thankfully, Trump is far more disliked.
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2016, 02:21:02 PM »

Compared to Trump and Sanders, absolutely. Not always a bad thing, but in this election, it hurts her.
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2016, 02:21:55 PM »

She's pretty much running as one.
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