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« on: May 12, 2016, 08:05:28 PM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barlaam_and_Josaphat

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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2016, 10:04:34 PM »

Am I missing the part where it says one of these saints was Buddha?

It's well-know that Christianity spread to India in the lifetime of the 12 Apostles.
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2016, 08:05:06 AM »

Am I missing the part where it says one of these saints was Buddha?

It's well-know that Christianity spread to India in the lifetime of the 12 Apostles.

The story of "Josaphat" is too similar to the story of the Buddha (son of a king - imprisoned in his palace because astrologers told his father that he would become a holy man - managed to escape anyway, decided to dedicate his life to religion after encountering a mystic along the road) to be coincidence.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2016, 09:35:33 AM »

and there is no such thing as a "Christian" saint.  Roman Catholics have saints.  A few other weirdos also have saints.  "Christians" don't have saints.


BRTD, back me up here.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2016, 10:19:07 AM »

Catholics aren't Christian?
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2016, 10:25:36 AM »

Depends on who you ask, but that's not the point.
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2016, 10:54:03 AM »

That the Buddha is a saint to most Christians, rather than all Christians, is a point without relevance.
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2016, 12:51:37 PM »

and there is no such thing as a "Christian" saint.  Roman Catholics have saints.  A few other weirdos also have saints.  "Christians" don't have saints.


BRTD, back me up here.
You're right in the sense that every saint is a Roman Catholic Wink
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2016, 01:39:35 PM »

and there is no such thing as a "Christian" saint.  Roman Catholics have saints.  A few other weirdos also have saints.  "Christians" don't have saints.


BRTD, back me up here.

Anglicans, Orthodox, and Lutherans also have recognized saints. The vast majority of Christians follow a denomination with recognized saints. All the others have unrecognized saints.
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2016, 07:20:53 PM »

Anglicans, Orthodox, and Lutherans also have recognized saints. The vast majority of Christians follow a denomination with recognized saints.
That maybe true worldwide, but not in the US.
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I don't know what this means exactly, but I know S.Baptists don't have saints, recognized or not.
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2016, 08:50:10 PM »

A saint is someone who goes to Heaven.

For example, the Catholic Saints are just people the Catholic Church feels it can confirm definitely went to heaven.
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2016, 08:37:13 AM »

aahhhh, makes sense I guess.  Ignorance fought, my apologies for the thread sh**t.
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2016, 04:21:46 PM »

and there is no such thing as a "Christian" saint.  Roman Catholics have saints.  A few other weirdos also have saints.  "Christians" don't have saints.


BRTD, back me up here.

Anglicans, Orthodox, and Lutherans also have recognized saints. The vast majority of Christians follow a denomination with recognized saints. All the others have unrecognized saints.

A saint is someone who goes to Heaven.

For example, the Catholic Saints are just people the Catholic Church feels it can confirm definitely went to heaven.

While the theology about saint is the same in Lutheranism as in Catholism, how they're treated in Lutheran Churches are quite different from Catholic Churches, there's a reason why Catholics are seen as worshippers of saints (even if this is not correct theological) and it's not just because of Protestant propaganda.
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2016, 08:59:16 PM »
« Edited: May 22, 2016, 09:02:22 PM by Oldiesfreak1854 »

and there is no such thing as a "Christian" saint.  Roman Catholics have saints.  A few other weirdos also have saints.  "Christians" don't have saints.


BRTD, back me up here.

Anglicans, Orthodox, and Lutherans also have recognized saints. The vast majority of Christians follow a denomination with recognized saints. All the others have unrecognized saints.
Lutherans don't recognize saints in the same way that Catholics, Anglicans, or Orthodox Christians do.  They have a liturgical calendar to honor them, but they don't generally refer to them as "St. <Blank>", and they don't venerate them the way Catholics do.  One of the co-pastors at my uncle's church, for instance, describes the word "saint" as having a dual meaning, both to refer to Christians known for their courageous faith, and also to refer to believers in general.

Simply put, while they honor certain individuals, they don't generally identify them as saints.
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2016, 01:14:30 AM »

I have heard the term of different Buddhist saint before, but it always seemed to me like it was a way of translating a position without context. In the Middle ages the Mongols understood the concept of "knight" very vaguely, and so if a Christian diplomat asked what type of rank so-and-so had the Mongol could reply "he is a knight" in a way of equating the person to a relatable term. It tends to ignore the finer details of the term and gives a more identifiable term that the person can relate to.
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