Obama mandates All Public Schools to let Trans students use bathroom of choice

[Blue3]

Obama is issuing an Executive Order to mandate all public schools nationwide allow transgender students to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with.

[This account no longer in use.]

This I can respect.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

It doesn't have the force of law lIke the typical executive order - i.e. it doesn't repeal the NC law. What it basically says is "If some other state tries this, we're suing them too."

"Obama Administration Warns Schools To Allow Transgender Access To Bathrooms" - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2016/05/12/obama-transgender-bathrooms_n_9944226.html

[tallguy23]

#Hero

[Lyin' Steve]

It's not really "mandating" anything, it's just saying "don't change the status quo."

Transgender students can currently use whichever bathroom they want.

[Gass3268]

It doesn't have the force of law lIke the typical executive order - i.e. it doesn't repeal the NC law. What it basically says is "If some other state tries this, we're suing them too."

"Obama Administration Warns Schools To Allow Transgender Access To Bathrooms" - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2016/05/12/obama-transgender-bathrooms_n_9944226.html

And possibly pulling DoE money.

FF!

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

Transgender students can currently use whichever bathroom they want.

what

[Bandit3 the Worker]

I support this order.

I hope he also issues an executive order abolishing mandatory uniforms in public schools.

[henster]

Looking at the HERO results in Houston I still feel Ds shouldn't go overboard on this issue. It really is easy for conservatives to spin this as a way for predators to go into bathrooms and prey on children however they spin it. HERO advocates had no answer for this in Houston and it appears they still don't.

[TDAS04]

FF!

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Looking at the HERO results in Houston I still feel Ds shouldn't go overboard on this issue. It really is easy for conservatives to spin this as a way for predators to go into bathrooms and prey on children however they spin it. HERO advocates had no answer for this in Houston and it appears they still don't.

It should be quite easy to answer.  Do you support a measure that forces people with beards and other masculine features into women's bathrooms because their birth certificate says they are a female, thereby giving cover to male rapists to do the same?  Let's face it, North Carolina's HB 2 makes it easier for women to be raped in bathrooms.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

He probably did this in case Trump wins and wanted to take care of it before Trump made it worse.

[Comrade Funk]

Idc who uses the bathroom, as long as they wash their hands.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Looking at the HERO results in Houston I still feel Ds shouldn't go overboard on this issue. It really is easy for conservatives to spin this as a way for predators to go into bathrooms and prey on children however they spin it. HERO advocates had no answer for this in Houston and it appears they still don't.

It should be quite easy to answer.  Do you support a measure that forces people with beards and other masculine features into women's bathrooms because their birth certificate says they are a female, thereby giving cover to male rapists to do the same?  Let's face it, North Carolina's HB 2 makes it easier for women to be raped in bathrooms.

The result is the same either way.

What you identify as, what you look like/can pass for, and what you were born as - these are each different things.

[user12345]

Idc who uses the bathroom, as long as they wash their hands.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

This would be a great issue for conservatives to rediscover the value of civil society and social convention finding solutions on.

[7,052,770]

Looking at the HERO results in Houston I still feel Ds shouldn't go overboard on this issue. It really is easy for conservatives to spin this as a way for predators to go into bathrooms and prey on children however they spin it. HERO advocates had no answer for this in Houston and it appears they still don't.

I don't know, Cruz's Indiana campaign was essentially a single-issue "attack Trump for being pro-trans" campaign and it went absolutely nowhere.

It wasn't that long ago that conservatives attacks gays for being unnatural and predatory the way that they do for the trans population now. It didn't even take 20 years for them to completely and totally lose the war on LGB and it will probably take even less time to lose the war on T.

Hell, it wasn't even 8 years ago (!) that California (!) voted to abolish gay marriage.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Looking at the HERO results in Houston I still feel Ds shouldn't go overboard on this issue. It really is easy for conservatives to spin this as a way for predators to go into bathrooms and prey on children however they spin it. HERO advocates had no answer for this in Houston and it appears they still don't.

I don't know, Cruz's Indiana campaign was essentially a single-issue "attack Trump for being pro-trans" campaign and it went absolutely nowhere.

It wasn't that long ago that conservatives attacks gays for being unnatural and predatory the way that they do for the trans population now. It didn't even take 20 years for them to completely and totally lose the war on LGB and it will probably take even less time to lose the war on T.

Hell, it wasn't even 8 years ago (!) that California (!) voted to abolish gay marriage.

Blame the fact that it's the most populated state, and that the general public still wasn't exactly ready to accept gays outside of New England.

[Free Bird]

Completely unconstitutional

[Adam Griffin]

I don't know, Cruz's Indiana campaign was essentially a single-issue "attack Trump for being pro-trans" campaign and it went absolutely nowhere.

I saw a really good analysis that suggested that Cruz really lost Indiana because he was being way too pious and preachy for the state's tastes. It has deep evangelical roots but it is still fundamentally Midwestern in the sense that show-off-y forms of Christian pageantry past a certain point turn off voters. It may have a lot of Southern transplants (that's why it's the way it is) but it's not Southern.

As an aggregate, it seems to me that both GOP politicians and voters as a whole are oddly less hostile to "T" issues than they were/are "LGB" issues...though not by miraculous amounts.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

I don't know, Cruz's Indiana campaign was essentially a single-issue "attack Trump for being pro-trans" campaign and it went absolutely nowhere.

I saw a really good analysis that suggested that Cruz really lost Indiana because he was being way too pious and preachy for the state's tastes. It has deep evangelical roots but it is still fundamentally Midwestern in the sense that show-off-y forms of Christian pageantry past a certain point turn off voters. It may have a lot of Southern transplants (that's why it's the way it is) but it's not Southern.

As an aggregate, it seems to me that both GOP politicians and voters as a whole are oddly less hostile to "T" issues than they were/are "LGB" issues...though not by miraculous amounts.

The lesser degree of hostility is pretty simple. Take away all the politically charged language and simply ask people what they spend more time thinking about: their marriage, or the logistics of public restroom usage. The answer for most is their marriage.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Idc who uses the bathroom, as long as they wash their hands.

[Gass3268]

Completely unconstitutional

Not really, these are just guidelines on how not to get sued by the DoJ or have DoE funding withdrawn. All of which are under the authority of the Executive branch and their ability to interpret regulations/legislation.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Completely unconstitutional

I don't think the founding fathers had bathrooms in mind when they wrote the constitution.

[Deblano]

Idc who uses the bathroom, as long as they wash their hands.

Amen!