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Question: How worried are you than nominee Clinton will hand the election to Trump?
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Not at all.
 
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A little concerned.
 
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Very worried.
 
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Utterly terrified.
 
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Happy! (Not a Hillary supporters.)
 
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Author Topic: Clinton supporters, are you scared that Hillary will blow it?  (Read 5822 times)
emailking
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« on: February 06, 2017, 01:26:09 PM »

Barring another Mike Dukakis tank moment, I think Hillary's handlers are going to put her into a box and not let her out for the rest of the general election. Focus on nothing more than presenting an alternative to Trump and talk some economics.

This was surprisingly prophetic.

She did nothing more at all besides be an alternative to Trump and give some lip-service to economics, and instead of a Dukakis Tank, it was James Comey and one letter.


Yes, Yes, and Yes. She ran a terrible campaign. She was the one candidate who ended up losing to DONALD TRUMP.

You don't know that. You don't know how other candidates would have done against Trump.

Yes I'm sure you can come up for some arguments why the other Democratic candidates would have beaten Trump, and I'm sure I can come up with some too...just like I can come up for some why they would  have done even worse. The fact is, we will never know how other candidates would have done.
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emailking
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2017, 03:10:23 PM »

-No; Bernie and Joe Biden would both have won. Trump was an exceptionally good candidate for some sections of the country (e.g., Eastern Ohio), but he was hardly unbeatable, and was an exceptionally bad candidate for the elite areas. With a more credible Democratic opponent, he could have been beaten.

You saw where I said that arguments exist that other democrats would have won? That I could come up with some myself? So you provided one. But you saying it doesn't make it true. The point is we won't know and can never know if it would have played out that way. It's just not as cut and dry as you're making it sound. And you stating matter-of-factly that Sanders and Biden would have won, doesn't make it true. Tongue
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emailking
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2017, 08:54:25 AM »

-No; Bernie and Joe Biden would both have won. Trump was an exceptionally good candidate for some sections of the country (e.g., Eastern Ohio), but he was hardly unbeatable, and was an exceptionally bad candidate for the elite areas. With a more credible Democratic opponent, he could have been beaten.

You saw where I said that arguments exist that other democrats would have won? That I could come up with some myself? So you provided one. But you saying it doesn't make it true. The point is we won't know and can never know if it would have played out that way. It's just not as cut and dry as you're making it sound. And you stating matter-of-factly that Sanders and Biden would have won, doesn't make it true. Tongue

-Biden and Bernie had email scandals, you mean to tell me?

I'm not sure if you don't understand my point or are just trying to be difficult. But it any case, they don't have to lose in ways that are arbitrarily analogous to the way in which Clinton lost, in order to lose at all. So it doesn't matter if they do or not.
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