It is time to get this done.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I agree on everything except the bit about Rimjob, Adam. There was no path to this kind of reform from that event. It was a criminal conspiracy, meant to change people's opinions through shock and horror and the Supreme Court merely did its job in 2013 (to protect the right of the Pacific's citizens to a democratic system).

If you were going to design a reform push to fail, you couldn't do better than that clusterf@#K. In fact, when it came time for Duke to attempt a real reform six months later, he ran head long into a regionalist movement rejuvenated as a result of Rimjob, with the entire right being whipped in opposition behind closed doors mainly out of fear that it would be manipulated by those same people in the Pacific. And with friends like those radicals, who needs enemies. Two of them (and 1 Nappy) failed to show up to even vote on it in the Senate, causing it to fail even though only two Senators voted nay, necessitating a re-introduction and a revote, which I was able to expedite as PPT thankfully. They were all in for causing trouble and not quite as concerned about reform. Some of them even voted nay on the ratification vote just to spite pro-reformers like Lumine who happened to PM the wrong person about voting. You were deregistered at the time of your own choice and because of the split of Atlasia into cliques, all of the GOTV was from people on the wrong side of that divide to get the allegedly pro-reform rimjobbers out.

This is not a victory for radicalist cabals. A July Surrender last summer would have been rimjob's vindication. This is a victory for the sober minded reforms of the like championed by people like Marokai and Duke, which were for years blocked by some of the same people involved in Rimjob because they were too pro-region in some cases, or in others, because they wanted to stir crap up. And to come full circle, The Marokai administration, which was entirely build on the promise of reforms, opposed that crime in the Pacific.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The only revisionism here is your attempt to rehabilitate the crime of 2013.


The heavy lifting to fix the Pacific that occured in 2013 and 2014 could have been proceeded without it. The very power obtained to engage in this activity could have been used to both destroy Nappy's influence and to reform the region. Of course that was impossible, because half of them are only active for shock trolling events and not serious governing.

As for the reform nationwide, regardless of the benefits to the argument for the necessity, and what you saw from being on the pro-side, I know what happened on the right because I happen to be fortunate enough have traversed in all the right circles, lacking the power to change the trajectory, but more than enough to see and know quite a lot. The same event that kicked it all in motion gurranteed Duke's lack of success in 2013 and 2014 on the reform question.

People have always reacted negatively to these types of events and the public support you build up was paper thin as it was not reflected once GOTV had worked its magic, with most of the success occuring on the nay side,  using the argument that a repeat was to be feared.

Reform like this only works when everyone is on board, political competitiveness is preserved and and both sides get to walk away with something. There was nothing like that about the summer of 2013 and that is why that failed and this didn't.

Your involvement is legendary and commendable, Adam,  no one is going to take this away from you. That doesn't vindicate such trollish stunts as Rimjob and thE July Anarchy. They were a distraction that caused significant delay from real reform, by people who mostly only care about distractions not reform.

And now most of those people are on the outside looking in mocking and deriding the very new generation of leaders who made this possible. No one will convince me that actions born of such thinking are a positive force in this game.