Which candidate winning fits the national mood the most?

[Reaganfan]

I heard a Hillary supporter in another thread mention that the "current environment" favors Hillary Clinton and I was kind of taken back by it. I think the whole Trump/Sanders anti-establishment anti-politician backlash against political correctness benefits Trump much more than Hillary. Maybe I'm wrong. I just can't see all the turnout, the record breaking crowds, the enthusiasm, the anti-Washington attitude in both parties culminating with "Textbook politician Hillary Clinton elected. Time's Person of the Year: Hillary Clinton. Headline of the Year: Hillary Clinton."

Am I wrong here? It just doesn't feel right.

[Lyin' Steve]

All Trump really has is that he fits the national mood.

[Asian Nazi]

Unless we're only talking about White America, clearly Hillary Clinton winning.  Obama has a solid approval rating and most people want to continue his legacy.

[Holmes]

You seem to be mistaking the mood of the Republican electorate for that of the whole country. Clinton has the highest popular vote of all candidates running, I believe only one incumbent has been successfully primaried this year (that indicted guy from Pennsylvania whose name I'm forgetting) and Obama's approvals are in positive territory. There's not an angry, anti-Washington mood across the country this year. Those that are mad are just loud.

So to answer the question, Clinton being elected is the natural progression of this.

[Lief 🗽]

Maybe one day Reaganfan will recognize that the "national mood" includes more than angry old white men. But today is not that day.

[Reaganfan]

I think you guys are way off on this. I'm not talking about the Republican electorate, I'm talking about the entire electorate.

Just a few recent polls:

Federal bank bailout, good or bad?

Bad: 55%
Good: 23%
Unsure: 22%

Government and big business working for or against Americans?

Against: 68%
For: 13%

Should Government programs be enforced to help income inequality?

No: 58%
Yes: 31%

Should there be a shutdown of Muslim immigration?

Yes: 45%
No: 41%

PA/OH/FL

Best to handle the economy?
TRUMP

Best to handle terrorism?
TRUMP

Who is more honest and trustworthy?
TRUMP

How the hell is that only the GOP mood? Those aren't "Republicans only" polls.

[RightBehind]

I think you guys are way off on this. I'm not talking about the Republican electorate, I'm talking about the entire electorate.

Just a few recent polls:

Federal bank bailout, good or bad?

Bad: 55%
Good: 23%
Unsure: 22%

Government and big business working for or against Americans?

Against: 68%
For: 13%

Should Government programs be enforced to help income inequality?

No: 58%
Yes: 31%

Should there be a shutdown of Muslim immigration?

Yes: 45%
No: 41%

PA/OH/FL

Best to handle the economy?
TRUMP

Best to handle terrorism?
TRUMP

Who is more honest and trustworthy?
TRUMP

How the hell is that only the GOP mood? Those aren't "Republicans only" polls.

I can cherrypick polls too, if I wanted.

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

Sanders. If Hillary actually gets indicted that is (which could happen very soon).

[Bismarck]

I would say Trump in terms of "mood". Possibly Bernie as well although not in terms of policy for either of them really. Firstly, why do liberals view the world in terms of white men vs all other groups? Secondly, even the majority of people turned off by the Republican Party and Trump are not mostly enthusiastic liberals. The political mood of this country is that government is disfunctional and in collusion with business is screwing over the American people. That is Trumps whole message. If he was able to still generate the amount of attention he got without saying things that turn off large segaments of voters (which probably wouldn't have been possible) Trump would win in a landslide.

[Blue3]

The media doesn't understand what the national mood is.

It's not the year of the outsider if Hillary is winning by millions of votes in her primary.

Or that even in Republican primaries, hardly any Republican incumbents have lost in primaries.

The "national mood" is Republicans going for Trump, Democrats going for Hillary.

[IceSpear]

First of all, you can't really tell the "mood of the country" from the <20% of the population that votes in primaries.

Secondly, to the extent you could, Hillary is winning her primary comfortably.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

First of all, you can't really tell the "mood of the country" from the <20% of the population that votes in primaries.

That is true.

Right now, given the "anti-establishment" wave, I'd say Trump, but this is very early.

[RightBehind]

You can't deny that there is a lot of anti-establishment sentiment from the Dems, too. Bernie will likely eclipse 20 states or more when all is said and done. Many resonate with his message and he has done far better than many thought.

Hillary might win the White House, but millions on both sides are ready for something new.

[SillyAmerican]

You can't deny that there is a lot of anti-establishment sentiment from the Dems, too. Bernie will likely eclipse 20 states or more when all is said and done. Many resonate with his message and he has done far better than many thought.

Hillary might win the White House, but millions on both sides are ready for something new.

Yup. Clearly Trump or Sanders fit the current national mood; the others do not.

[President Johnson]

The voters want an outsider. TRUMP is the man.

[RightBehind]

The voters want an outsider. TRUMP is the man.

They might want an outsider, but probably not at the expense of someone like Trump.

[Gog]

Clinton becuase most people seem to want to continue Obama's polices outside of the GOP and white working class blue collar people.

[Figueira]

Whoever wins will fit the national mood, by definition. I think Clinton will win, so Clinton.

[RightBehind]

Whoever wins will fit the national mood, by definition. I think Clinton will win, so Clinton.

Except if the Dems keep the White House it'll be on a fundamentally different tone than 2008. 2008 was riding on a wave of hope and change. There was enthusiasm for Obama to help us with the Great Recession when we were on the brink of another Great Depression.

If Hillary wins this year, the mood of the country isn't a Hillary love fest, it's an outright rejection of Trump.

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

The media doesn't understand what the national mood is.

It's not the year of the outsider if Hillary is winning by millions of votes in her primary.

Or that even in Republican primaries, hardly any Republican incumbents have lost in primaries.

The "national mood" is Republicans going for Trump, Democrats going for Hillary.

The fact that a 74 year old socialist from Vermont who used to live in a shack with a dirt floor has beaten Hillary Clinton in 20 primaries/caucuses says something about the mood among Democrats nation-wide.

[Maxwell]

Hillary fits the national mood of people who aren't locked in an ideological echo-chamber, which is most people.

[7,052,770]

So if Hillary wins despite the "national mood" being 180 degrees in the other direction, does that she was a fantastically good candidate after all?

[Lyin' Steve]

So if Hillary wins despite the "national mood" being 180 degrees in the other direction, does that she was a fantastically good candidate after all?

No, it means Sanders and Trump were particularly bad candidates.  Howard Dean would have cleaned up this year.

[Meclazine for Israel]

If you take out the superdelegates, or god forbid give them to Bernie, the numbers support the argument for a change of mood for an outsider.

The mood being anti-establishment in both parties.

We cannot write Trump off just yet.

Watched enough episodes of the Apprentice to realise that.

[RightBehind]

So if Hillary wins despite the "national mood" being 180 degrees in the other direction, does that she was a fantastically good candidate after all?

No, it means Sanders and Trump were particularly bad candidates.  Howard Dean would have cleaned up this year.

Except they weren't.

Give the GOP superdelegates and it's a closer race.