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« Reply #250 on: May 17, 2016, 06:09:04 PM »

These morons need to be quarantined. Can you imagine the outrage had Hillary supporters behaved this way in 2008? We would have been handcuffed and transported to jail on the spot. The double standard is absolutely sickening. These lunatics need to be stopped before they systematically dismantle the party, which, let's face it, Bernie Sanders himself has wanted to do ever since he began his political career.

I hate to say this, but downright conspiracy theories are simply playing right into the r/sandersforpresident playbook.
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« Reply #251 on: May 17, 2016, 06:15:47 PM »

These morons need to be quarantined. Can you imagine the outrage had Hillary supporters behaved this way in 2008? We would have been handcuffed and transported to jail on the spot. The double standard is absolutely sickening. These lunatics need to be stopped before they systematically dismantle the party, which, let's face it, Bernie Sanders himself has wanted to do ever since he began his political career.

I hate to say this, but downright conspiracy theories are simply playing right into the r/sandersforpresident playbook.

I take the Sanders's campaign and its supporters about as seriously as I take Sarah Palin anymore. They've lost their grip on reality.
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« Reply #252 on: May 17, 2016, 06:38:36 PM »

These morons need to be quarantined. Can you imagine the outrage had Hillary supporters behaved this way in 2008? We would have been handcuffed and transported to jail on the spot. The double standard is absolutely sickening. These lunatics need to be stopped before they systematically dismantle the party, which, let's face it, Bernie Sanders himself has wanted to do ever since he began his political career.

I hate to say this, but downright conspiracy theories are simply playing right into the r/sandersforpresident playbook.

I take the Sanders's campaign and its supporters about as seriously as I take Sarah Palin anymore. They've lost their grip on reality.

You're the one saying Sanders' lifelong goal is to destroy the Democratic Party. In my opinion, both extreme Sandernistas and extreme Hillbots are as credible as Sarah Palin these days.
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« Reply #253 on: May 17, 2016, 07:11:03 PM »

Jon Ralson reported on this incident:

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He also reports that Sanders supporters are now trying to shut down the businesses that Nevada Democratic Party Chairwoman Roberta Lange oversees.

https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/business-state-democratic-chairwoman-oversees-targeted-berners
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« Reply #254 on: May 17, 2016, 08:28:17 PM »

Jfern's narrative ahead of the convention has suddenly shifted from "you Hillbots have alienated us; watch and weep as all of Bernie's delegates walk out of the convention en masse" to "how dare the corrupt DNC throw out Bernie's legitimately elected delegates? If they didn't want chairs to be thrown around they should have fixed them to the floor; the DNC only have themselves to blame."
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« Reply #255 on: May 17, 2016, 09:11:56 PM »

Funny, I was wondering why there wasn't a thread on this until today. Turns out there was and it just got buried in with the other threads.

Anywho, this is another example of the violent tendencies of the Sanderistas. And you guys wonder why you get decked when you come in and punch grandmas at Trump rallies.
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« Reply #256 on: May 17, 2016, 09:13:50 PM »

John Ralston is now getting a dressing down from another spoiled Sanderista brat on MSNBC. Maddow seems nervous.
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« Reply #257 on: May 17, 2016, 09:57:40 PM »

Wow, this site really really hates Bernie people.

It's not that they hate 'Bernie people'. Some of the best posters on this forum support Sanders. It's more that this forum hates delusional Berniebros like you.
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« Reply #258 on: May 17, 2016, 10:52:24 PM »

These morons need to be quarantined. Can you imagine the outrage had Hillary supporters behaved this way in 2008? We would have been handcuffed and transported to jail on the spot. The double standard is absolutely sickening. These lunatics need to be stopped before they systematically dismantle the party, which, let's face it, Bernie Sanders himself has wanted to do ever since he began his political career.

I hate to say this, but downright conspiracy theories are simply playing right into the r/sandersforpresident playbook.

I take the Sanders's campaign and its supporters about as seriously as I take Sarah Palin anymore. They've lost their grip on reality.

You're the one saying Sanders' lifelong goal is to destroy the Democratic Party. In my opinion, both extreme Sandernistas and extreme Hillbots are as credible as Sarah Palin these days.

The difference being that most extreme Hillbots would gladly vote for Bernie Sanders over Trump, whereas the extreme Sandernistas would vote for Satan over Hillary.
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« Reply #259 on: May 17, 2016, 10:54:40 PM »

Jfern's narrative ahead of the convention has suddenly shifted from "you Hillbots have alienated us; watch and weep as all of Bernie's delegates walk out of the convention en masse" to "how dare the corrupt DNC throw out Bernie's legitimately elected delegates? If they didn't want chairs to be thrown around they should have fixed them to the floor; the DNC only have themselves to blame."

No chairs were thrown just like no one chanted English only. Baghdad Bob had more credibility than Nevada Hillary hacks.
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« Reply #260 on: May 17, 2016, 11:49:30 PM »

Jfern's narrative ahead of the convention has suddenly shifted from "you Hillbots have alienated us; watch and weep as all of Bernie's delegates walk out of the convention en masse" to "how dare the corrupt DNC throw out Bernie's legitimately elected delegates? If they didn't want chairs to be thrown around they should have fixed them to the floor; the DNC only have themselves to blame."

No chairs were thrown just like no one chanted English only. Baghdad Bob had more credibility than Nevada Hillary hacks.
The chair throwing thing was confirmed by Jon Ralston, who is no one's definition of a Clinton hack.
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« Reply #261 on: May 17, 2016, 11:54:47 PM »

Jfern's narrative ahead of the convention has suddenly shifted from "you Hillbots have alienated us; watch and weep as all of Bernie's delegates walk out of the convention en masse" to "how dare the corrupt DNC throw out Bernie's legitimately elected delegates? If they didn't want chairs to be thrown around they should have fixed them to the floor; the DNC only have themselves to blame."

No chairs were thrown just like no one chanted English only. Baghdad Bob had more credibility than Nevada Hillary hacks.
The chair throwing thing was confirmed by Jon Ralston, who is no one's definition of a Clinton hack.

Ralston is totally full of sh**t. No chair was thrown. Here's the video of a chair not being thrown.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bernie4People/status/732619789424832512/video/1

Let's assume that anything else that comes out of Nevada Hillary supporter's mouths is a pants on fire lie.
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« Reply #262 on: May 18, 2016, 12:12:10 AM »

Jfern's narrative ahead of the convention has suddenly shifted from "you Hillbots have alienated us; watch and weep as all of Bernie's delegates walk out of the convention en masse" to "how dare the corrupt DNC throw out Bernie's legitimately elected delegates? If they didn't want chairs to be thrown around they should have fixed them to the floor; the DNC only have themselves to blame."

No chairs were thrown just like no one chanted English only. Baghdad Bob had more credibility than Nevada Hillary hacks.
The chair throwing thing was confirmed by Jon Ralston, who is no one's definition of a Clinton hack.

Ralston is totally full of sh**t. No chair was thrown. Here's the video of a chair not being thrown.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bernie4People/status/732619789424832512/video/1

Let's assume that anything else that comes out of Nevada Hillary supporter's mouths is a pants on fire lie.

A video of a chair not being thrown is not proof that no chairs were thrown.
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« Reply #263 on: May 18, 2016, 12:12:12 AM »

Jfern's narrative ahead of the convention has suddenly shifted from "you Hillbots have alienated us; watch and weep as all of Bernie's delegates walk out of the convention en masse" to "how dare the corrupt DNC throw out Bernie's legitimately elected delegates? If they didn't want chairs to be thrown around they should have fixed them to the floor; the DNC only have themselves to blame."

No chairs were thr
own just like no one chanted English only. Baghdad Bob had more credibility than Nevada Hillary hacks.
The chair throwing thing was confirmed by Jon Ralston, who is no one's definition of a Clinton hack.

Ralston is totally full of sh**t. No chair was thrown. Here's the video of a chair not being thrown.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bernie4People/status/732619789424832512/video/1

Let's assume that anything else that comes out of Nevada Hillary supporter's mouths is a pants on fire lie.
A video with no timestamp is evidence of something not happening? Good grief, how stupid do you think the rest of us are?
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« Reply #264 on: May 18, 2016, 12:16:23 AM »

Ahh, so a lie that can't be falsified according to you hacks. Everyone has a smartphone these days, so I'm sure there would be footage if this wasn't another lie like the "English Only" lie that went over the entire media.
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« Reply #265 on: May 18, 2016, 12:41:58 AM »
« Edited: May 18, 2016, 12:48:27 AM by Jeff Weaver »

Oh here comes Jfern... and it looks like he's actually trying to argue that what happened in Nevada was ok and the Clinton people are lying about it.  Or at least they're lying about the chair being thrown.  Because they really need to tell lies about what happened since it obviously wasn't bad enough.

Jfern, the hall was huge and crowded, it's not inconceivable that nobody would have a smartphone focused on one random person before they threw a chair to get the footage.  In the video you showed, some guy is clearly about to throw a chair when someone else tears it out of his hands.  Since someone was caught on camera about to throw a chair, that makes me more willing to believe that at another time and another place during the riots someone did throw a chair.  Clearly some of your Sanders people, like that guy, were willing to do it and wanted to do it.

But you know what?  It doesn't matter.  So let's say the press is reporting that someone threw a chair when really all that happened is that someone almost threw a chair.  That's a minor detail that's like 0.01% of the whole story.  You win, dumbass, the other 99.9% still stands.  Your candidate is a rabble-rousing coward, his supporters are frothing maniacs, and his campaign feeds them lies to power their paranoid delusions.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/sanders-dodges-question-about-convention-disturbance-687328835563
Here's your brave hero.  Such integrity and passion for the truth!
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« Reply #266 on: May 18, 2016, 12:46:29 AM »

I like how Jfern keeps refuting stuff with people WHO WERE ACTUALLY THERE.
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« Reply #267 on: May 18, 2016, 12:50:56 AM »

Oh here comes Jfern... and it looks like he's actually trying to argue that what happened in Nevada was ok and the Clinton people are lying about it.  Or at least they're lying about the chair being thrown.  Because they really need to tell lies about what happened since it obviously wasn't bad enough.

Jfern, the hall was huge and crowded, it's not inconceivable that nobody would have a smartphone focused on one random person before they threw a chair to get the footage.  In the video you showed, some guy is clearly about to throw a chair when someone else tears it out of his hands.  Since someone was caught on camera about to throw a chair, that makes me more willing to believe that at another time and another place during the riots someone did throw a chair.  Clearly some of your Sanders people, like that guy, were willing to do it and wanted to do it.

But you know what?  It doesn't matter.  So let's say the press is reporting that someone threw a chair when really all that happened is that someone almost threw a chair.  That's a minor detail that's like 0.01% of the whole story.  You win, dumbass, the other 99.9% still stands.  Your candidate is a rabble-rousing coward, his supporters are frothing maniacs, and his campaign feeds them lies to power their paranoid delusions.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/sanders-dodges-question-about-convention-disturbance-687328835563
Here's your brave hero.  Such integrity and passion for the truth!

What other 99.9%? This is a straight-up pants on fire swiftboating of Bernie supporters.
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« Reply #268 on: May 18, 2016, 01:06:23 AM »

Oh here comes Jfern... and it looks like he's actually trying to argue that what happened in Nevada was ok and the Clinton people are lying about it.  Or at least they're lying about the chair being thrown.  Because they really need to tell lies about what happened since it obviously wasn't bad enough.

Jfern, the hall was huge and crowded, it's not inconceivable that nobody would have a smartphone focused on one random person before they threw a chair to get the footage.  In the video you showed, some guy is clearly about to throw a chair when someone else tears it out of his hands.  Since someone was caught on camera about to throw a chair, that makes me more willing to believe that at another time and another place during the riots someone did throw a chair.  Clearly some of your Sanders people, like that guy, were willing to do it and wanted to do it.

But you know what?  It doesn't matter.  So let's say the press is reporting that someone threw a chair when really all that happened is that someone almost threw a chair.  That's a minor detail that's like 0.01% of the whole story.  You win, dumbass, the other 99.9% still stands.  Your candidate is a rabble-rousing coward, his supporters are frothing maniacs, and his campaign feeds them lies to power their paranoid delusions.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/sanders-dodges-question-about-convention-disturbance-687328835563
Here's your brave hero.  Such integrity and passion for the truth!

What other 99.9%? This is a straight-up pants on fire swiftboating of Bernie supporters.

Here's part of it.  Inexcusable.  Shame on you for even trying to defend this.
You should have stayed silent.

https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/sample-voicemails-left-state-democratic-chairwoman-roberta-lange
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« Reply #269 on: May 18, 2016, 01:07:25 AM »

What other 99.9%? This is a straight-up pants on fire swiftboating of Bernie supporters.

Go back to the Green party where you belong and take the other nutjobs like Susan Sarandon and Rosario Dawson with you.
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« Reply #270 on: May 18, 2016, 01:13:27 AM »
« Edited: May 18, 2016, 01:15:45 AM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Oh here comes Jfern... and it looks like he's actually trying to argue that what happened in Nevada was ok and the Clinton people are lying about it.  Or at least they're lying about the chair being thrown.  Because they really need to tell lies about what happened since it obviously wasn't bad enough.

Jfern, the hall was huge and crowded, it's not inconceivable that nobody would have a smartphone focused on one random person before they threw a chair to get the footage.  In the video you showed, some guy is clearly about to throw a chair when someone else tears it out of his hands.  Since someone was caught on camera about to throw a chair, that makes me more willing to believe that at another time and another place during the riots someone did throw a chair.  Clearly some of your Sanders people, like that guy, were willing to do it and wanted to do it.

But you know what?  It doesn't matter.  So let's say the press is reporting that someone threw a chair when really all that happened is that someone almost threw a chair.  That's a minor detail that's like 0.01% of the whole story.  You win, dumbass, the other 99.9% still stands.  Your candidate is a rabble-rousing coward, his supporters are frothing maniacs, and his campaign feeds them lies to power their paranoid delusions.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/sanders-dodges-question-about-convention-disturbance-687328835563
Here's your brave hero.  Such integrity and passion for the truth!

What other 99.9%? This is a straight-up pants on fire swiftboating of Bernie supporters.

Here's part of it.  Inexcusable.  Shame on you for even trying to defend this.
You should have stayed silent.

https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/sample-voicemails-left-state-democratic-chairwoman-roberta-lange

"Look, anybody who is supporting me that is doing the sexist things is — we don’t want them." - Bernie Sanders
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« Reply #271 on: May 18, 2016, 01:15:57 AM »

Oh here comes Jfern... and it looks like he's actually trying to argue that what happened in Nevada was ok and the Clinton people are lying about it.  Or at least they're lying about the chair being thrown.  Because they really need to tell lies about what happened since it obviously wasn't bad enough.

Jfern, the hall was huge and crowded, it's not inconceivable that nobody would have a smartphone focused on one random person before they threw a chair to get the footage.  In the video you showed, some guy is clearly about to throw a chair when someone else tears it out of his hands.  Since someone was caught on camera about to throw a chair, that makes me more willing to believe that at another time and another place during the riots someone did throw a chair.  Clearly some of your Sanders people, like that guy, were willing to do it and wanted to do it.

But you know what?  It doesn't matter.  So let's say the press is reporting that someone threw a chair when really all that happened is that someone almost threw a chair.  That's a minor detail that's like 0.01% of the whole story.  You win, dumbass, the other 99.9% still stands.  Your candidate is a rabble-rousing coward, his supporters are frothing maniacs, and his campaign feeds them lies to power their paranoid delusions.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/sanders-dodges-question-about-convention-disturbance-687328835563
Here's your brave hero.  Such integrity and passion for the truth!

What other 99.9%? This is a straight-up pants on fire swiftboating of Bernie supporters.

Here's part of it.  Inexcusable.  Shame on you for even trying to defend this.
You should have stayed silent.

https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/sample-voicemails-left-state-democratic-chairwoman-roberta-lange

"Look, anybody who is supporting me that is doing the sexist things is — we don’t want them." - Bernie Sanders



Your argument was that all the "Nevada Hillary supporters" (fyi, basically everybody on this board has come to grips with reality except you at this point) were lying and making things up and that nothing inappropriate occurred.  Are you now conceding the point that inappropriate things did occur in Nevada and shifting to arguing that Sanders isn't personally responsible for them?  Just wanted to nail down that you lost your original argument before engaging your new one.
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« Reply #272 on: May 18, 2016, 01:19:49 AM »

Oh here comes Jfern... and it looks like he's actually trying to argue that what happened in Nevada was ok and the Clinton people are lying about it.  Or at least they're lying about the chair being thrown.  Because they really need to tell lies about what happened since it obviously wasn't bad enough.

Jfern, the hall was huge and crowded, it's not inconceivable that nobody would have a smartphone focused on one random person before they threw a chair to get the footage.  In the video you showed, some guy is clearly about to throw a chair when someone else tears it out of his hands.  Since someone was caught on camera about to throw a chair, that makes me more willing to believe that at another time and another place during the riots someone did throw a chair.  Clearly some of your Sanders people, like that guy, were willing to do it and wanted to do it.

But you know what?  It doesn't matter.  So let's say the press is reporting that someone threw a chair when really all that happened is that someone almost threw a chair.  That's a minor detail that's like 0.01% of the whole story.  You win, dumbass, the other 99.9% still stands.  Your candidate is a rabble-rousing coward, his supporters are frothing maniacs, and his campaign feeds them lies to power their paranoid delusions.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/sanders-dodges-question-about-convention-disturbance-687328835563
Here's your brave hero.  Such integrity and passion for the truth!

What other 99.9%? This is a straight-up pants on fire swiftboating of Bernie supporters.

Here's part of it.  Inexcusable.  Shame on you for even trying to defend this.
You should have stayed silent.

https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/sample-voicemails-left-state-democratic-chairwoman-roberta-lange

"Look, anybody who is supporting me that is doing the sexist things is — we don’t want them." - Bernie Sanders



Your argument was that all the "Nevada Hillary supporters" (fyi, basically everybody on this board has come to grips with reality except you at this point) were lying and making things up and that nothing inappropriate occurred.  Are you now conceding the point that inappropriate things did occur in Nevada and shifting to arguing that Sanders isn't personally responsible for them?  Just wanted to nail down that you lost your original argument before engaging your new one.

The chair thing was a lie. Who cares whether some people who may or may not have been Bernie supporters, and Bernie doesn't want their support anyways, left harassing voice messages. That's not violence like the liars claimed. And that wasn't at the convention. The claim was there was violence at the convention. That some supposed Bernie supporters made some harassing calls at a different point in time is not violence at the convention. Bernie pointed out that one of his campaign offices in Nevada had shots fired at it. That was real violence.
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« Reply #273 on: May 18, 2016, 01:25:18 AM »

The chair thing was a lie. Who cares whether some people who may or may not have been Bernie supporters, and Bernie doesn't want their support anyways, left harassing voice messages. That's not violence like the liars claimed. And that wasn't at the convention. The claim was there was violence at the convention. That some supposed Bernie supporters made some harassing calls at a different point in time is not violence at the convention. Bernie pointed out that one of his campaign offices in Nevada had shots fired at it. That was real violence.

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« Reply #274 on: May 18, 2016, 01:35:26 AM »
« Edited: May 18, 2016, 01:37:27 AM by Jeff Weaver »

Oh here comes Jfern... and it looks like he's actually trying to argue that what happened in Nevada was ok and the Clinton people are lying about it.  Or at least they're lying about the chair being thrown.  Because they really need to tell lies about what happened since it obviously wasn't bad enough.

Jfern, the hall was huge and crowded, it's not inconceivable that nobody would have a smartphone focused on one random person before they threw a chair to get the footage.  In the video you showed, some guy is clearly about to throw a chair when someone else tears it out of his hands.  Since someone was caught on camera about to throw a chair, that makes me more willing to believe that at another time and another place during the riots someone did throw a chair.  Clearly some of your Sanders people, like that guy, were willing to do it and wanted to do it.

But you know what?  It doesn't matter.  So let's say the press is reporting that someone threw a chair when really all that happened is that someone almost threw a chair.  That's a minor detail that's like 0.01% of the whole story.  You win, dumbass, the other 99.9% still stands.  Your candidate is a rabble-rousing coward, his supporters are frothing maniacs, and his campaign feeds them lies to power their paranoid delusions.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/sanders-dodges-question-about-convention-disturbance-687328835563
Here's your brave hero.  Such integrity and passion for the truth!

What other 99.9%? This is a straight-up pants on fire swiftboating of Bernie supporters.

Here's part of it.  Inexcusable.  Shame on you for even trying to defend this.
You should have stayed silent.

https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/sample-voicemails-left-state-democratic-chairwoman-roberta-lange

"Look, anybody who is supporting me that is doing the sexist things is — we don’t want them." - Bernie Sanders



Your argument was that all the "Nevada Hillary supporters" (fyi, basically everybody on this board has come to grips with reality except you at this point) were lying and making things up and that nothing inappropriate occurred.  Are you now conceding the point that inappropriate things did occur in Nevada and shifting to arguing that Sanders isn't personally responsible for them?  Just wanted to nail down that you lost your original argument before engaging your new one.

The chair thing was a lie. Who cares whether some people who may or may not have been Bernie supporters, and Bernie doesn't want their support anyways, left harassing voice messages. That's not violence like the liars claimed. And that wasn't at the convention. The claim was there was violence at the convention. That some supposed Bernie supporters made some harassing calls at a different point in time is not violence at the convention. Bernie pointed out that one of his campaign offices in Nevada had shots fired at it. That was real violence.

Hundreds of people left death threats for whatserface and her family and vandalized the DNC headquarters after the convention was over.  Do you really think those people, in an absolute raging mob at the convention, did absolutely nothing violent?  Why do you think the sheriff and a bunch of police had to show up to force them to leave?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AteQ391p4t4

You're "arguing" (your argument is just claiming that your imagination about an event you weren't at is more trustworthy than reporters who were actually there) about technicalities as though the fact that no direct violence was captured on the four or five twenty-second cell phone clips floating around the internet indicates that no violence occurred at any point in the twelve hours.  Oh except for that one clip where a woman's lying on the ground and some guy's getting dragged away while the PA says "we need a medic in the front..."

You're pathetic.  You're in denial about something the rest of the world knows happened and trying to argue about little bits of information on the margin so your brain won't have to accept that you and your campaign are in a deep deep pit of moral depravity.  And that's understandable, when you're in a cult your brain does all sorts of weird gymnastics to avoid accepting the truth.  I would urge you to seek professional help but it will all be over in a few weeks anyway so there's no real point.
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