NV Democratic State Convention

[Joe Republic]

The Bernie side is, as I type this, screaming for a recount.  The chairs are calling for order.

[Joe Republic]

Hillary also won more alternates, btw.

[Joe Republic]

The speaker right now is emphasizing that the credentials report is "preliminary", with the final report to come later.  Bernie side is still screaming and chanting.

[Joe Republic]

Btw, cross-posted from a different thread, and from before the credentials report:

I'm at the NV Dem convention right now, and state party chairwoman Roberta Lange just announced that she agreed the caucus system is outdated and fraught with massive problems.  She and the state party will be looking at moving toward a state-funded primary (crowd went wild) or "massively reforming" the party-funded caucuses (crowd booed).

Glad to see the wind blowing in the right direction.

[Joe Republic]

I think it is safe to say we have seen the last of Nevada as an early state.

I don't follow.

[Joe Republic]

Bernie side is still screaming and chanting.

Obnoxious f-ckheads. Ugh.

They're still going.

[Joe Republic]

There was an announcement a little while ago that a puppy has been found, and the owner should claim it at the Bernie Sanders info kiosk.

[Joe Republic]

Oh sh**t they're booing Barbara Boxer now, after she reiterated Bernie's call for civility.

"When you boo me, you're booing Bernie Sanders as well."

[Joe Republic]

Nina Turner of Ohio (guest speaker for Bernie) now speaking, and the Clinton side noticeably listening respectfully and clapping her in welcome.  Hmm, slight difference from Barbara Boxer's welcome.

[Joe Republic]

Nina Turner: "They keep telling us about math.  Well, I got some math of my own."

^ Bernie Sanders campaign in a nutshell.

[Joe Republic]

The final count should be coming down soon according to some paid $hill on reddit.

Yeah, we're just sitting around waiting for that sh[inks]show to ensue.

In other news, im really hungry and forgot to bring any food.

[Joe Republic]

"Final" credential report (before final realignments):

Hillary 1693
Bernie 1662
Uncommitted (lol) 4

[Joe Republic]

The margin narrowed significantly once Bernie's core demographic rolled out of bed and showed up at the latest possible time.

They announced the final total immediately before announcing the break for lunch, meaning that the cries of disappointment were drowned out by the stampede out of the hall to the nearby food court.

[Joe Republic]

I just overheard a woman screaming that Bernie has been winning 60% of the primary vote, so this is all a huge injustice and a fix.

[Joe Republic]

I can safely say that Shadows' version of events is completely made up.  But what do I know, I'm just sitting here in the convention while he's in India so I'm sure he has a better handle on what's going on.

[Joe Republic]

Roberta Gustave Lange, a Clinton supporter and Chair of the Democratic State Party, changed the rules without a 2/3rds majority quorum

Meanwhile, what happened in actual reality is that a rules committee of 3 Hillary supporters and 3 Bernie supporters jointly created the temporary rules for the convention some time ago.  The vote to change the temporary rules to some other set of permanent rules required a 2/3 majority, which of course failed, so the temporary rules became permanent.

Please don't believe what you read on r/Sandersforpresident

[Joe Republic]

Sanders supporters were angry over a voice vote that adopted a set of temporary convention rules as the permanent rules, according to the Las Vegas Sun.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/279930-nevada-dem-convention-devolves-into-chaos

And as I told you, as somebody in the same room when it happened, changing the rules to whatever the Bernie campaign wanted them changed to required a 2/3 vote.  The voice vote sounded pretty evenly divided to me, so it failed.

[Joe Republic]

When is realignment over Joe?

"Shortly."  We're all just sitting around waiting.

There's still 2 uncommitted delegates!  Attention seekers.

[Joe Republic]

What you think is a righteous outcome doesn't justify a blatant affront to democracy. They voted to change the rules 30 minutes before scheduled, before registration was complete, and had stuff "carry" without 2/3 of the voice vote.

Huh?  The motion to pass the convention rules wasn't given a specific scheduled time.  I have the agenda on my lap right now; the vote was planned to take place between 10-12, and was done about 10.30.  Are you privy to more information than the rest of us delegates actually sitting here in the convention?

And I already addressed your misunderstanding of the 2/3 voice vote.

[Joe Republic]

We've now begun the arduous task of electing the party's executive committee, then the various categories of national delegates.

The final delegate count has been delayed because there were still 2 attention whores uncommitted delegates, who must realign to one of the two candidates.  They were given half an hour to do so, otherwise they will be taken out back and shot*.


Party bylaw 175b-1A.

[Joe Republic]

Sanders supporters were angry over a voice vote that adopted a set of temporary convention rules as the permanent rules, according to the Las Vegas Sun.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/279930-nevada-dem-convention-devolves-into-chaos

Yeah, they lost the voice vote since they are in the minority. Not hard to figure out.

It was before all the delegates are seated. Congrats on helping Trump by pissing off Bernie supporters  .

The vote took place half an hour after the deadline for delegates to join the line to register for their credentials.  There were barely any lines this time (unlike the county convention, this entire convention has been run relatively efficiently).  So why would it take more than thirty minutes for Bernie delegates to register and take their seats?

Plus, nobody has anything close to a 2/3 majority in here, so I've no idea what you're complaining about.

[Joe Republic]

Uh, no, the vote to change the temporary rules into whatever the Bernie side wanted to change them to required a 2/3 vote.  Where are you getting your facts from?  I'm literally sitting here in the convention right now.

[Joe Republic]

Uh, no, the vote to change the temporary rules into whatever the Bernie side wanted to change them to required a 2/3 vote.  Where are you getting your facts from?  I'm literally sitting here in the convention right now.

What? It was the Hillary side that had the rules changed.

Wrong again.  The temporary rules were drawn up by a committee of 3 Hillary supporters and 3 Bernie supporters.

That wasn't good enough for the Bernie side, who wanted to change them to who knows what else, but needed a 2/3 majority to do so.  They failed, obviously, so the temporary rules were adopted as permanent.

[Joe Republic]

Um, do you have something more than a tweet?

[Joe Republic]

DC (Shadow) US Senator Paul Strauss is now speaking, randomly enough.  About DC statehood of course.