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dax00
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« on: May 14, 2016, 05:43:40 PM »

What you think is a righteous outcome doesn't justify a blatant affront to democracy. They voted to change the rules 30 minutes before scheduled, before registration was complete, and had stuff "carry" without 2/3 of the voice vote.

It's not about the 2 delegates, it's about the principle. And Hillary supporters today showed a glaring lack of respectful democratic principle.

There are rules. The rules say the whittling down of delegates can change the statewide delegate allocation. Perhaps it's not the best rule, but it was the rule in place at the time, and it should be respected for the equity of all involved parties.
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2016, 05:52:20 PM »

Hillary won in February 13 delegates to 10. That's fine. I have no qualms with that. Even though the NV Delegate Selection Plan clearly stated that caucus was non-binding in bold font, it is sufficiently ambiguous for me to let that go.

However, Bernie won April. Today, Hillary supporters tried to wrest back in an underhanded fashion the delegates they thought they had rightfully earned.
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dax00
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2016, 06:02:04 PM »

Hillary won in February 13 delegates to 10. That's fine. I have no qualms with that. Even though the NV Delegate Selection Plan clearly stated that caucus was non-binding in bold font, it is sufficiently ambiguous for me to let that go.

However, Bernie won April. Today, Hillary supporters tried to wrest back in an underhanded fashion the delegates they thought they had rightfully earned.
The popular vote of the state was for Hillary Clinton.  So it is ok for them to overturn the will of the people of Nevada.  How is god's green earth is that fair, or democratic.  Your the one who is trying to steal this nomination, not Hillary and her camp.
This straw man is getting old. The caucus system has multiple tiers, which vote independently of each other.
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dax00
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2016, 06:06:07 PM »

Hillary won in February 13 delegates to 10. That's fine. I have no qualms with that. Even though the NV Delegate Selection Plan clearly stated that caucus was non-binding in bold font, it is sufficiently ambiguous for me to let that go.

However, Bernie won April. Today, Hillary supporters tried to wrest back in an underhanded fashion the delegates they thought they had rightfully earned.
The popular vote of the state was for Hillary Clinton.  So it is ok for them to overturn the will of the people of Nevada.  How is god's green earth is that fair, or democratic.  Your the one who is trying to steal this nomination, not Hillary and her camp.
This straw man is getting old. The caucus system has multiple tiers, which vote independently of each other.

lol, this from a Trump supporter?  I"m sure you had the same attitude three weeks ago when Cruz was stealing all his delegates at these little conventions.
For the record, I did not complain about those conventions. I just posted pictures of some results.
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dax00
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2016, 06:23:02 PM »

Are you implying a Ron Paul 2008, Ron Paul 2012, Bernie Sanders 2016, Donald Trump 2016 voter is not ideologically consistent?! Reddit would like to have a word with you.
For the record, I was Ron Paul '08, Jill Stein '12, Sanders/Trump '16.

My ideology is stratifying. It does not conform to either the Democratic or Republican platforms in weak resignation.
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dax00
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2016, 06:26:57 PM »

Are you implying a Ron Paul 2008, Ron Paul 2012, Bernie Sanders 2016, Donald Trump 2016 voter is not ideologically consistent?! Reddit would like to have a word with you.
For the record, I was Ron Paul '08, Jill Stein '12, Sanders/Trump '16.

My ideology is stratifying. It does not conform to either the Democratic or Republican platforms in weak resignation.

Exactly how can one support both a libertarian and a socialist?
(Very left)-libertarian
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2016, 06:35:28 PM »

And Trump's right wing nationalism with an authoritarian streak fits in where?
I have paleocon tendencies (minus the religious bit).
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