NV Democratic State Convention

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Are you implying a Ron Paul 2008, Ron Paul 2012, Bernie Sanders 2016, Donald Trump 2016 voter is not ideologically consistent?! Reddit would like to have a word with you.

For the record, I was Ron Paul '08, Jill Stein '12, Sanders/Trump '16.

My ideology is stratifying. It does not conform to either the Democratic or Republican platforms in weak resignation.

Exactly how can one support both a libertarian and a socialist?

(Very left)-libertarian

Is that similar to right-wing communist?

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Sanders supporters were angry over a voice vote that adopted a set of temporary convention rules as the permanent rules, according to the Las Vegas Sun.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/279930-nevada-dem-convention-devolves-into-chaos

Yeah, they lost the voice vote since they are in the minority. Not hard to figure out.

It was before all the delegates are seated. Congrats on helping Trump by pissing off Bernie supporters  .

You were born pissed off, so not much damage done.

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The fact that jfern believes his own set of facts instead of those reported by somebody who is literally in the convention shows that truthiness isn't a concept restricted to right-wing nuts.

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^ Jfern has had an Indy avatar since Bush was president, IIRC.

So hes been done with "this corrupt party" for close to a decade then?

A significant part of Sanders supporters are either Paulbots who shifted to him after Rand's candidacy tanked or far-left wingers who always vote third party but saw in him a "true progressive", not like all those moderate heroes like Gore, Kerry or Obama.

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Jesus is the convention still going on?

Oh yeah, I've been here for ten hours.

The chair just announced that one of the two microphones out on the convention floor has been misplaced/stolen.  It costs $1700 supposedly.  He then announced that both mics have now gone, but was interrupted by a Bernie supporter - using the second mic - who claimed that they deliberately hid it because they feared they were being taken by the Clinton campaign for nefarious purposes.

These people need therapy, like yesterday.

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It's no wonder that Sanders' followers are so ignorant about party rules.
Most of them aren't even Democrats.

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Here's the vote. The nos sound louder.

Silly me didn't know that votes actually make sounds.

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All this nitpicking and nagging really is pointless since this race has been mathematically over since Super Tuesday. It's really been done since South Carolina.

Obviously Hillary is almost certainly going to be the nominee, butHillary people seem to want to stick it to Bernie people, and assume that they'll vote for her. Hell no!

Good. If the Democrats don't want to have a Donald Trump in their hands then they ought to purge the party from left-wing nuts like you, just like the Republicans did in the 60's with the Birchers.  

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All this nitpicking and nagging really is pointless since this race has been mathematically over since Super Tuesday. It's really been done since South Carolina.

Obviously Hillary is almost certainly going to be the nominee, butHillary people seem to want to stick it to Bernie people, and assume that they'll vote for her. Hell no!

Good. If the Democrats don't want to have a Donald Trump in their hands then they ought to purge the party from left-wing nuts like you, just like the Republicans did in the 60's with the Birchers.  

You can't take away our power, because WE DON'T HAVE ANY!!!!!!

Thank God for that.

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So, according to Jon Ralston most Sanders "delegates" were denied seating because they weren't registered Democrats.
Clearly the fix was in by those devious $hillary hacks and David Brock.

 

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Why would any delegates even be registered as independents?  You need to be a registered Democrat to vote in the caucuses in the first place.

Obviously they weren't delegates. They were just random Sanders supporters (it wouldn't surprise me if they were out of state) that tried to crash the convention in order to inflate his numbers.

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Bernie's not responsible for the conduct of these people, obviously.  I don't think the onus is on him to drop out because of a few assholes, though I do wish he'd step up and disavow this.

Actually he is. His campaign has been inciting these crazies with all the talk about how "rigged" the primary is or their whining about superdelegates and closed primaries.

And why are some people surprised that Sanders hasn't denounced these thugs? He just became a Democrat for convenience, he doesn't feel any commitment to the welfare of the party. He wants to keep them as a personal army, so he will continue to tolerate this kind of behavior. Who knows, maybe he will make a statement too about how passionate they are and how much they love their country.

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No, he isn't.  He never incited violence or told his supporters to behave this way, unlike Trump.  And he ran as a Democrat because he vowed not to run as an independent and split Democrat voters in the general.

He hasn't explicitly incited violence but with his reckless conspiracy theory peddling he has given cover to these nuts. Let's not forget that his surrogates have gone many times  way off script and he never corrected, denounced or taken them off trail.

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LOL, what a courageous leader!

https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/732588761423486976

Per @DannyEFreeman, Sanders held press avail while in Puerto Rico. When asked about NV tension/chaos, Sanders walked away during middle of Q

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The fact that Sanders had to be arm-twisted by Reid to condemn his hooligans speaks poorly for his leadership skills.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CirhJEcWgAAjPwn.jpg:large

Sanders can go *blank* himself.

Heres his statement. Its hard to read. I'll try and find a better copy. 

What a spineless, graceless little old man. He is rapidly transforming into TRUMP-light.

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BTW, what does ol' Bernie means when he says that he held rallies in "high crime areas"?
You don't think what I think?

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I hope Bernie calls on the Hillary Clinton to disavow HillaryBro Wendell Pierce who beat a female Sanders supporter.

That's not even close to comparable.

Even if it were, it's pretty telling that the Berniebot doesn't even pretend to be bothered by all the violence.
I said it before, these people need to be ousted from the party, they are a disrupting force, the left-wing equivalent of the Tea party.

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Wow, this site really really hates Bernie people.

You're difficult to tell apart from Trumpsters, so that's to be expected.

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What other 99.9%? This is a straight-up pants on fire swiftboating of Bernie supporters.

Go back to the Green party where you belong and take the other nutjobs like Susan Sarandon and Rosario Dawson with you.

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The chair thing was a lie. Who cares whether some people who may or may not have been Bernie supporters, and Bernie doesn't want their support anyways, left harassing voice messages. That's not violence like the liars claimed. And that wasn't at the convention. The claim was there was violence at the convention. That some supposed Bernie supporters made some harassing calls at a different point in time is not violence at the convention. Bernie pointed out that one of his campaign offices in Nevada had shots fired at it. That was real violence.

OK, I ask the mods to intervene and do what they think is appropriate with jfern.
He has made the leap from insufferable to unhinged and frothing-from-the-mouth conspiracy peddler. 

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kos at Daily Kos rips into Sanders over his pathetic "statement."  

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/17/1527598/-Amazing-Bernie-Sanders-still-can-t-tell-his-most-crazed-supporters-to-stop-acting-like-Trump-goons

As someone who did not vote for Sanders in the Primary but respected the spirit of what he was trying to accomplish, this was a leadership test and he failed badly.  Are violence and death threats now part of a "positive campaign?"  

I'm glad Elizabeth Warren didn't run.  Running for President usually results in the candidate making big and unpleasant compromises to their integrity.  Hillary accepted that long ago and Sanders has now sunk into a moral quagmire.  At least someone in the party can still speak with moral authority.

Kos declared Hillary the nominee over 2 years ago and has been trashing Bernie nonstop, so who cares what he thinks?

That's right, everyone knows that whoever doesn't grovel before King Sanders is a corporate sellout and/or a fascist.
Let's post some serious objective analysis by HA Goodman and Seth Abramson.

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So apparently back in January, a bullet hole was discovered in the storefront window of his campaign office.  Cops couldn't say when a shot might have been fired, nor did they find a bullet, meaning that evidently nobody was around at all when it happened.  Their office is in a fairly shady part of town, so it's also possible it was there before they even moved in.

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/jan/08/bullet-hole-found-at-sanders-campaign-hq-on-day-ca/

I think that calls for a congressional investigation of Hillary.
Where is Darrel Issa when you need him?

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Jesus Christ.  If you see somebody in a loud, angry crowd holding a chair up over his head, how would you immediately react?

"The Democratic Party will not be forgiven for this."  What kind of loser talks like this?  And over whether some guy threw a chair or not?  Go outside and breathe some fresh air.  This will all be over soon.

Why are you falling in jfern and the Sanders campaign's trap Joe?
The question isn't whether a chair was thrown or not. The question is on what grounds these people scream about democracy and how the voice of the people must be heard and then try to steal delegates from the rightful winner of the state.

And for whoever had any doubts, here is more evidence of the hypocrisy of Sanders, only this time the victims were his own gullible supporters.

http://midnightsunak.com/2016/05/03/state-legislator-calls-bernie-sanders-alaska-convention-move-shameful/

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FTR, just a few minutes ago a 15-16 years old Berniebot was screaming about "voter fraud" in Nevada.
When I mentioned to him that the caucus was back in February and Clinton won it 53-47 he was flabbergasted. The poor kid believed that the convention was the caucus.