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« on: May 15, 2016, 01:16:05 PM »

Please also post a percentage.
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2016, 01:22:01 PM »

Didn't vote - I don't know if it's possible right now to have an idea of what turnout will be. All I can say is, don't assume high primary turnout on one side or the other will be reflective of the general election turnout. There is little correlation.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2016, 01:25:45 PM »

Trump's presence on the ballot assures it will go up.
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2016, 01:52:12 PM »

Turnout will be moderately higher due to the fact that a lot more people are following the election thanks to TRUMP.
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2016, 02:08:31 PM »

Higher. I say at least 59%, probably 62%. TRUMP will make the voter turnout great again.
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2016, 02:38:07 PM »

I think white and black turnout will be about the same as it was in 2012, but Hispanic turnout will soar into the sixties.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2016, 02:41:30 PM »

With 10 percent going Trump? That will be hard to do.
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2016, 02:43:11 PM »

I think white and black turnout will be about the same as it was in 2012, but Hispanic turnout will soar into the sixties.

That's probably too generous, imo. I do not think America has ever had a situation where turnout for one voter group jumped over 12% in one election (2012 Hispanic turnout rate was 48%~). However, I don't think we've ever had a situation where an entire voter bloc has been offended like this and threatened with deportation of their friends and family, so if there was ever a situation that could cause such a surge, this would be it.

I'd like to say Hispanic voting rates jump anywhere from 4% - 8% (so 52% - 56%), African American turnout either goes down 1%, stays the same, or even goes up 1%, and white turnout probably jumps 2% - 3%.

Who knows. What I can say is that if minority turnout surges, Trump is in trouble. Based on 2012 numbers and demographic changes, he needs an impossibly high share of the white vote just to carve out a slim win (64% - 65%), and if minority turnout goes even higher, then he needs even more of the white vote. That's a tall order for someone as hated, stupid, offensive and untrustworthy as Trump.
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2016, 03:05:35 PM »

Higher, and against Trump, who is toxic
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2016, 03:23:11 PM »

Trump and Clinton on the ballot will drive up turnout on both sides.
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2016, 03:26:36 PM »

Trump and Clinton on the ballot will drive up turnout on both sides.

Trump and Clinton on the ballot will drive down turnout on both sides.

When both candidates are unpopular, there are many undecideds and most of them don't vote in the end.
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2016, 03:27:44 PM »

Trump and Clinton on the ballot will drive up turnout on both sides.

Trump and Clinton on the ballot will drive down turnout on both sides.

When both candidates are unpopular, there are many undecideds and most of them don't vote in the end.

No, they will motivate the other side to vote against them.
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2016, 03:37:27 PM »

Trump and Clinton on the ballot will drive up turnout on both sides.

Trump and Clinton on the ballot will drive down turnout on both sides.

When both candidates are unpopular, there are many undecideds and most of them don't vote in the end.

No, they will motivate the other side to vote against them.

Only party hacks like you are motivated. Normal people will be turned off.
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2016, 03:43:49 PM »

Trump and Clinton on the ballot will drive up turnout on both sides.

Trump and Clinton on the ballot will drive down turnout on both sides.

When both candidates are unpopular, there are many undecideds and most of them don't vote in the end.

No, they will motivate the other side to vote against them.

Only party hacks like you are motivated. Normal people will be turned off.

Yeah, if only blank slates like O'Malley and Gilmore were nominated, turnout would be sky high because people woudn't be "turned off."
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2016, 03:44:11 PM »

Trump and Clinton on the ballot will drive up turnout on both sides.

Trump and Clinton on the ballot will drive down turnout on both sides.

When both candidates are unpopular, there are many undecideds and most of them don't vote in the end.

No, they will motivate the other side to vote against them.

Only party hacks like you are motivated. Normal people will be turned off.

That's when fear becomes a pretty useful tactic. Fear of Trump could be pretty beneficial for Democrats.
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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2016, 03:51:46 PM »
« Edited: May 15, 2016, 04:13:25 PM by Ljube »

Trump and Clinton on the ballot will drive up turnout on both sides.

Trump and Clinton on the ballot will drive down turnout on both sides.

When both candidates are unpopular, there are many undecideds and most of them don't vote in the end.

No, they will motivate the other side to vote against them.

Only party hacks like you are motivated. Normal people will be turned off.

That's when fear becomes a pretty useful tactic. Fear of Trump could be pretty beneficial for Democrats.

There is no basis for fear. At least the majority of voters don't fear Trump. Some party hacks may actually fear him, but not many of them.

The campaign is going to be negative. Negative campaigns invariably drive down turnout. The people abstaining from voting are decent people who don't like dirty and ugly campaigns and are turned off by negativity. This decrease in turnout will be significant.

The election will be decided by the party bases. In other words, who can get his/her base to turn out and vote. Enthusiasm is an indicator of who will be more successful and right now it is Trump.

So, turnout around 53% and Trump winning with 49%.
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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2016, 04:19:26 PM »

1996 and 2000 were both relatively positive elections with relatively popular candidates. They both had low turnouts. 2004 and 2012 were both relatively negative elections with relatively unpopular candidates. They both had high turnouts.

On course on the flip side you could cite 1988 as a negative election with a low turnout or 1960 as a positive election with a high turnout.

In short, there's not much of a correlation.
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« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2016, 06:32:01 PM »

Only three things can save Trump.

1. Terrorism
2. Trouble for Clinton with FBI
3. Turnout

Donald needs his supporters to show up in hysteria to get across the line.
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2016, 06:38:28 PM »

If voters are so disgruntled then they had better turn out.

I predict that since voting in either candidate will be a first -- Hillary the first female President and Trump the first nobody outsider -- there will be lots of people voting who might not normally vote.

Hillary takes it because Trump has the highest negatives of all of them. Nothing about him is going to change...he's a shallow thinker who can't see the political arena for the trees.
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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2016, 06:54:36 PM »

Trump's presence on the ballot assures it will go up.

Agreed, in both parties.
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