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Claim TRUMP wasn't a true conservative and look for someone MORE right-wing in 2020
 
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Come to it's senses and fight for a Bush, Christie, Kasich type candidate in 2020
 
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No effect
 
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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2016, 02:44:38 PM »

Publishes a report saying they need to reach out to women, hispanics etc. Floats candidates like Haley, Tim Scott, Amash and then revert to an old white guy (Trump, Romney, Mccain)

Republicans will never learn that they can nominate all the young, black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, Jewish, Muslim, atheist, gay, and/or female candidates they want and it will not win them the youth vote, the female vote, the minority vote, etc., just as shamelessly putting Sarah Palin on the ticket didn't help them with women in 2008. Women won't vote for a female Republican just because she's a female; rather, they'll vote against the female Republican because she's a REPUBLICAN, because Republicans do not have the best track record on women's issues.
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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2016, 02:48:01 PM »

I could see either one happening.
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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2016, 03:03:40 PM »

The last time the Republicans won without a Nixon or a Bush on the ticket was 1928.

Just sayin'.
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« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2016, 03:45:45 PM »

Erm, obviously Option 1, but that's not hard because Trump is the most left-wing GOP nominee in living memory.
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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2016, 08:19:16 PM »

Given that Trump is not conservative, nearly anyone they could come up with for 2020, even a ˇJeb! clone, would be more conservative than Trump. So, 1.

Privately, I think the main reaction of many Republicans in such a scenario would be relief.
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« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2016, 09:55:19 PM »

The last time the Republicans won without a Nixon or a Bush or Reagan or Eisenhower on the ticket was 1928.

Just sayin'.
Fixed it for you.
Edit: How stupid of me. Forgot about running mates.
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« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2016, 01:41:06 AM »

The rightist party is the natural home for nationalist sentiments within a country. I expect the Republicans will find it increasingly difficult to deny reality and pretend it is still 2004, when in fact the world is much different. People are sick of war and the domestic situation is dreadful. The energy is going to be that of a more inward focus.

Regardless of what Trump's margin is, there will be Republicans eyeing his message and path and will offer a similar pitch to try and get the Trump vote in the primaries, whilst avoiding Trump's personality and controversial statements.

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« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2016, 04:51:51 AM »

The rightist party is the natural home for nationalist sentiments within a country. I expect the Republicans will find it increasingly difficult to deny reality and pretend it is still 2004, when in fact the world is much different. People are sick of war and the domestic situation is dreadful. The energy is going to be that of a more inward focus.

Regardless of what Trump's margin is, there will be Republicans eyeing his message and path and will offer a similar pitch to try and get the Trump vote in the primaries, whilst avoiding Trump's personality and controversial statements.

Yes. This.
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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2016, 01:46:28 PM »

I think a better question would be "how would the GOP cope with a Trump win?"
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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2016, 02:05:48 PM »

The last time the Republicans won without a Nixon or a Bush on the ticket was 1928.

Just sayin'.

Neal Bush for Trump VP?
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« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2016, 03:14:46 PM »

The last time the Republicans won without a Nixon or a Bush on the ticket was 1928.

Just sayin'.

So you are saying Republicans won't ever win again?
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« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2016, 03:30:56 PM »
« Edited: May 17, 2016, 03:38:15 PM by Virginia »

The rightist party is the natural home for nationalist sentiments within a country. I expect the Republicans will find it increasingly difficult to deny reality and pretend it is still 2004, when in fact the world is much different. People are sick of war and the domestic situation is dreadful. The energy is going to be that of a more inward focus.

Regardless of what Trump's margin is, there will be Republicans eyeing his message and path and will offer a similar pitch to try and get the Trump vote in the primaries, whilst avoiding Trump's personality and controversial statements.

Are you talking about changing the Republican platform to include Trump's agenda items, such as leaving the safety net alone, extending healthcare (somehow), anti-trade, ending opposition to social change, etc?

If so, that kind of platform change won't happen immediately, even if they try to make it look like that is what they want to do. I imagine candidates further downballot will play with those positions, but national/Senate campaigns will be slower to adopt due to donor/activist issues. If they try to concede their fight with social issues, they will upset the value voters faction and inevitably lose some grassroots support / money. If they try to reverse on supply side tax policy / trade / regulatory policies, they will lose some monetary / grassroots support from people like AFP.

Republican leaders were not clueless to the fact that their voters wanted different things. They knew this to varying degrees. They kept a platform that went against their voters interests because the Republican establishment sold out to deep-pocket donors and other conservative groups. I wouldn't be surprised if they lost the next 2 (20'/24') presidential elections because they were unable to cope with an ever-diversifying electorate that increasingly didn't buy their bs.

All this on top of the fact that a lot of other conservatives in the party oppose various parts of Trump's agenda on ideological grounds.
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