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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2016, 11:55:11 AM »

Some questionable trade decisions aside, Bill's administration did an amazing job with the economy so I really do like this. My parents have a high opinion of Bill regardless of the scandal because the 90's were actually pretty good years.

Yep.  Jeb likes to talk about 4% growth and everyone makes fun of him because it's so pie in the sky (we're around 2-2.5% growth annually under Obama, excluding the -2% growth in 2009) but Clinton's numbers were pretty consistently above 4%.  I think his worst year was 2.7%, still on par with Obama's best.

Reagan was also pretty good, around 3-4% notwithstanding the -2% of the 1982 recession and the 7% of the 1984 bounce-back.

W had three years in the 1s, a few 2-3 years in the mid-2000s and the horror of 2008-2009.
HW's took us from the high 3s to 1s and negative numbers.
No wonder nobody trusted Jeb lol

Exactly - what a lot of the establishment GOP failed to recognize is that Americans really don't buy the traditional GOP economic orthodoxy - deregulation, across-the-board tax cuts, and free trade - after the Bush 2 years.  I tend to think that those policies were good in the 1980's but have outlived their shelf life.  Bush needed to change course at some point, and it's regrettable he didn't.  I'm not a fan of everything Trump does, but I do think that restricting immigration, renegotiating trade deals, and taking a softer line on taxes (and supporting financial regulation) is definitely the path the GOP needs to take going forward (though perhaps more pro-immigration).

I agree with Arch, and with what RFayette says. Hillary is trying very hard to leverage the popularity of her husband (especially with regard to his handling of the economy), which is a very smart thing to do, especially given her rather anemic, dismal support in some areas of the country.
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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2016, 12:43:58 PM »

TRUMP will link him to Nafta, which was a disaster.
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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2016, 01:32:13 PM »

TRUMP will link him to Nafta, which was a disaster.

Just like it hurt Hillary in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2016, 01:44:24 AM »

TRUMP will link him to Nafta, which was a disaster.

Just like it hurt Hillary in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Roll Eyes

These former democratic voters went to TRUMP.
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« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2016, 01:51:53 AM »

Some questionable trade decisions aside, Bill's administration did an amazing job with the economy so I really do like this. My parents have a high opinion of Bill regardless of the scandal because the 90's were actually pretty good years.

Yep.  Jeb likes to talk about 4% growth and everyone makes fun of him because it's so pie in the sky (we're around 2-2.5% growth annually under Obama, excluding the -2% growth in 2009) but Clinton's numbers were pretty consistently above 4%.  I think his worst year was 2.7%, still on par with Obama's best.

Reagan was also pretty good, around 3-4% notwithstanding the -2% of the 1982 recession and the 7% of the 1984 bounce-back.

W had three years in the 1s, a few 2-3 years in the mid-2000s and the horror of 2008-2009.
HW's took us from the high 3s to 1s and negative numbers.
No wonder nobody trusted Jeb lol

Exactly - what a lot of the establishment GOP failed to recognize is that Americans really don't buy the traditional GOP economic orthodoxy - deregulation, across-the-board tax cuts, and free trade - after the Bush 2 years.  I tend to think that those policies were good in the 1980's but have outlived their shelf life.  Bush needed to change course at some point, and it's regrettable he didn't.  I'm not a fan of everything Trump does, but I do think that restricting immigration, renegotiating trade deals, and taking a softer line on taxes (and supporting financial regulation) is definitely the path the GOP needs to take going forward (though perhaps more pro-immigration).

The problem is the GOP.Donor base wants nothing to do with any of those three things you've mentioned

Fortunately the GOP donor base is more irrelevant than ever.

Yea, especially now that someone won the nomination mostly by self-funding that is even more the case. But their influence couldn't buy the continuation of cyclical amnesty, so I doubt their ability to force their position on trade and regulation either.
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« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2016, 01:53:40 AM »

TRUMP will link him to Nafta, which was a disaster.

Just like it hurt Hillary in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Roll Eyes

These former democratic voters went to TRUMP.

These voters have been voting Republican for more than a decade.
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« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2016, 02:00:24 AM »

TRUMP will link him to Nafta, which was a disaster.

Just like it hurt Hillary in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Roll Eyes

These former democratic voters went to TRUMP.

These voters have been voting Republican for more than a decade.

Not necessarily, especially in Ohio.
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« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2016, 03:44:24 AM »

TRUMP will link him to Nafta, which was a disaster.

Just like it hurt Hillary in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Roll Eyes

These former democratic voters went to TRUMP.

These voters have been voting Republican for more than a decade.

Not necessarily, especially in Ohio.

Romney won Ohio whites in a landslide.
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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2016, 03:46:01 AM »

TRUMP will link him to Nafta, which was a disaster.

Just like it hurt Hillary in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Roll Eyes

These former democratic voters went to TRUMP.

These voters have been voting Republican for more than a decade.

Only those for whom social issues and now coal suffice to move the needle. Such has no impact with secular blue collar workers in Cleveland, Youngstown, NE PA or the Lehigh Valley.
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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2016, 06:47:44 AM »

TRUMP will link him to Nafta, which was a disaster.

Just like it hurt Hillary in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Roll Eyes

These former democratic voters went to TRUMP.

These voters have been voting Republican for more than a decade.

Not necessarily, especially in Ohio.

Romney won Ohio whites in a landslide.

Ohio working class-whites, especially in southern OH, and NE OH.
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« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2016, 09:41:30 AM »

TRUMP will link him to Nafta, which was a disaster.

Just like it hurt Hillary in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Roll Eyes

TRUMP has a great chance to pick up these states.
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« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2016, 10:15:01 AM »

TRUMP will link him to Nafta, which was a disaster.

Just like it hurt Hillary in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Roll Eyes

TRUMP has a great chance to pick up these states.

If he decides to ignore Colorado, Virginia and Florida and focus instead on Pennsylvania, Michigan and Ohio, then by all means he should do it.
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« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2016, 10:49:59 AM »

Anyone see a picture of Bill lately? Put him in charge of the economy?! I dont know if i would feel comfortable with him watching my kids let alone the economy with the way he looks.
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« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2016, 10:51:57 AM »

TRUMP will link him to Nafta, which was a disaster.

Just like it hurt Hillary in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Roll Eyes

TRUMP has a great chance to pick up these states.

If he decides to ignore Colorado, Virginia and Florida and focus instead on Pennsylvania, Michigan and Ohio, then by all means he should do it.

He won't ignore them. Don't worry.
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« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2016, 10:57:56 AM »

Not surprising. The national economy of the 90s is the only positive thing a majority of people associate with Bill Clinton
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« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2016, 11:08:34 AM »

Not surprising. The national economy of the 90s is the only positive thing a majority of people associate with Bill Clinton
Unfortunately, it was not that great.  NAFTA was a terrible decision.
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« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2016, 05:09:39 PM »

His plays right into Trump's hands. Looks like the tables have finally turned with the two parties
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« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2016, 12:00:05 AM »

His plays right into Trump's hands. Looks like the tables have finally turned with the two parties


Before, she could have easily brushed it off by saying, "I'm not Bill, I will be my own President" on whatever given issue. By having her actively annoit him as Economy Tsar essentially, wraps everything he did right around her neck, from deregulating Wall Street, to NAFTA.
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